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re: Navy SEALs to open to women, top admiral says

Posted on 8/18/15 at 7:06 pm to
Posted by Col Nathan Jessup
Guantanamo Bay, Cuba
Member since Dec 2014
57 posts
Posted on 8/18/15 at 7:06 pm to
quote:

It's believed the Marine Corps may seek to keep its ground combat jobs, including the infantry, male-only.




Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
33759 posts
Posted on 8/18/15 at 7:15 pm to
Why's that?
Posted by Fireman17
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2010
12373 posts
Posted on 8/18/15 at 7:16 pm to
No way a woman will every make pass first phase of BUDs
Posted by 56lsu
jackson mich
Member since Dec 2005
8225 posts
Posted on 8/18/15 at 7:19 pm to
whats your MOS
Posted by Black
My own little world
Member since Jul 2009
22244 posts
Posted on 8/18/15 at 7:23 pm to
They won't get past INDOC
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 8/18/15 at 7:25 pm to
quote:

It is not in a woman's personal interest to fight in combat. It puts her in a very unhappy position. I do not believe that any good woman would want to be in that position.


The same is true for men.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 8/18/15 at 8:44 pm to
Idiotic PC politicians are in contol of the pentagon now, not competent and professional generals.

This bullshite of trying to integrate Women into a comat role that they're biologically inferior too is going to get some good men killed and disrupt the cohesion and good order of the unit.
Posted by Lunchbox48
Member since Feb 2009
941 posts
Posted on 8/18/15 at 9:01 pm to
quote:

They won't get past INDOC


There's actually an unofficial physical assessment period before Prep School which is before INDOC before BUDs.

There's not a female on earth that could even get through INDOC, much less BUD/s, much less SQT, much less TRP all of which is before they get to team training.

There will never be a female SEAL. This is nothing but trying to appear fair.
Posted by lake2280
Public intellectual
Member since Nov 2012
4474 posts
Posted on 8/18/15 at 9:12 pm to
Why is that you ask? How many friendships have been ruined over or because of women? We treat women different always have always will, most prefer to be treated differently. You put a women on my team for months at a time in combat there would be a better chance of distractions and distractions are not what we need. I could care less about the physical demands that doesn't bother me. One tour I spent 7 months sleeping on a hmmwv with 3 other guys. If me thinking I traded out one of those guys for a female would have disrupted what we accomplished call me a sexist.
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65497 posts
Posted on 8/18/15 at 9:20 pm to
Great job Rangers. Look what you've done
Posted by Spankum
The Sip
Member since Jan 2007
63345 posts
Posted on 8/18/15 at 9:25 pm to
Interesting...just yesterday, I heard a radio interview with a high-ranking marine officer (female) who had been fired because she protested that fact that women are held to lower standards when trying to become marines...
Posted by Captain Rumbeard
Member since Jan 2014
7474 posts
Posted on 8/18/15 at 9:31 pm to
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if a girl can actually pass the exact sam BUDS that the seals pass and the rest of a team trust her. I have no problem with it. But they will not pass BUDS and no way in hell a team would trust her unconditionally.


This.

It's a non issue for them to open it to women because they won't be able to survive BUDS. Weak link carrying a boat or a telephone pole ends up taking most of the weight. Good luck with that ladies.
Posted by MikeD
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
8621 posts
Posted on 8/18/15 at 9:38 pm to
quote:

It's a non issue for them to open it to women because they won't be able to survive BUDS. Weak link carrying a boat or a telephone pole ends up taking most of the weight. Good luck with that ladies.


It's all good to say they won't pass the physical standards, but at some point they SJWs will question why the standards are so high and push for them to be lowered so a woman can pass. Book it.

This is a sad day for our country.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18419 posts
Posted on 8/18/15 at 9:39 pm to
quote:

There's not a female on earth that could even get through INDOC, much less BUD/s, much less SQT, much less TRP all of which is before they get to team training.

There will never be a female SEAL. This is nothing but trying to appear fair.


They'll lower the standards just like they did for ranger school
Posted by stinkdawg
Savannah, smoking by the gas cans
Member since Aug 2014
4072 posts
Posted on 8/18/15 at 9:46 pm to
That's because the Marine Corps is too small and too under funded for the Navy to put up with this nonsense. Just because she increased rifle scores and PFT scores, doesn't mean they qualify for the grunts.
Posted by Lunchbox48
Member since Feb 2009
941 posts
Posted on 8/18/15 at 10:05 pm to
No, no they won't.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18419 posts
Posted on 8/18/15 at 10:14 pm to
quote:

No, no they won't.




They can and they will, it's already begun. Regardless, there are females out there that could pass BUDS. It's not out the realm of possibility. BUDS isn't CAG selection, it's another military school based on mental toughness.
This post was edited on 8/18/15 at 10:30 pm
Posted by Lunchbox48
Member since Feb 2009
941 posts
Posted on 8/18/15 at 10:20 pm to
Just gonna have to agree to disagree on both. They're not changing 120+ weeks of training, most of which is exclusively designed by team members and with little oversight, just to allow a woman to keep passing phases. And no, I don't think there's a female who can pass a drug test and complete conditioning with the RIBs. Shoulders and necks are not designed for it.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18419 posts
Posted on 8/18/15 at 10:22 pm to
Agree to disagree
Posted by ULSU
Tasmania
Member since Jan 2014
3931 posts
Posted on 8/18/15 at 10:25 pm to
Without reading a single responses, all I've got is, lol at the idea of a woman going through Buds.

Ranger school is a far far cry from that
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