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National Park Memorial to Flight 93 needs to be more defiant

Posted on 9/11/19 at 8:10 am
Posted by DeCat ODahouse
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Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 8:10 am
Has anyone visited it?
Maybe the overall impression is different in person?

Besides the memorial type aspect of the Tower of Voices, I'd like to see a monument that makes statement about the spirit of the passengers and the powerful testament to our country their action was.
An Eagle/Phoenix rising from the ashes would be a good start...



Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
32432 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 8:16 am to
Looks beautiful and a place of solitude to me. What do you want? Flames, fireworks, etc?
Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 8:17 am to
Don't want to take away anything from those people, but I just wonder if the Gov didn't just shoot down that plane.

God bless their souls.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86706 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 8:17 am to
quote:

An Eagle/Phoenix rising from the ashes would be a good start...


well luckily you don't design memorials
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 8:18 am to
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powerful testament to our country their action was


I mean, the fact that this memorial is in the middle of nowhere Pennsylvania and not in the middle of Washington DC I think is testament enough.
Posted by The Great McGinty
Member since Jan 2017
1384 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 8:19 am to
quote:

but I just wonder if the Gov didn't just shoot down that plane.


Bruh.....
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58625 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 8:34 am to
quote:

but I just wonder if the Gov didn't just shoot down that plane.


Bruh.....
What it is a valid aspect to what happened. It supposedly was headed to the White House. The other planes already impacted. What else would the military do to another hijacked plane, just wait and watch it hit the next target?

And a perfect platform to band your population together with a story about how they fought back. This is nothing like the 9-11 conspiracies.
This post was edited on 9/11/19 at 8:36 am
Posted by greenwave
Member since Oct 2011
3879 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 8:36 am to
There are eye witnesses that saw the plane hit the ground ... it wasnt shot

I have been to the site. It was very somber, much more than the NYC memorial, very quiet not a lot of people.
This post was edited on 9/11/19 at 8:38 am
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 8:39 am to
quote:

Don't want to take away anything from those people, but I just wonder if the Gov didn't just shoot down that plane.


Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 8:40 am to
quote:

Bruh.....


Ever watch GB interview about 9/11 and what he said and the look on his face? It was a look of discuss when he stated he gave orders to shoot down any planes that didn't land right away when the order came out to ground all planes nation wide.

Oh, I watched it again last night.
This post was edited on 9/11/19 at 8:41 am
Posted by soccerfüt
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Member since May 2013
76148 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 8:43 am to
quote:

Has anyone visited it?
Maybe the overall impression is different in person?
So you’re judging the overall impression of a place that you’ve never been to.

Posted by greenwave
Member since Oct 2011
3879 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 8:43 am to
lol where are the fragments that would have hit the ground if it was "shot down" Dont you think on a clear day in Pennsylvania a lot of people would have seen this.

Posted by DeCat ODahouse
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2017
1708 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 8:48 am to
Wow, did not think the idea of an Eagle taking flight in tribute to heroes would get down votes.
Didn't mean to step on anybody's way of paying tribute today.

REALLY didn't mean to inspire conspiracy theorists.
For doubters there is a chilling audio and transcript of the flight recorder. And the testimony of folks receiving calls from passengers.
Reading the transcript is what made me feel we need to do more for those that took action.
Flight 93 Park Service link


Posted by greenwave
Member since Oct 2011
3879 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 8:51 am to
"Wainio called her stepmother at 09:53:43 and concluded, four and a half minutes later, by saying, "I have to go. They're breaking into the cockpit. I love you.

"Jarrah dialed in the VHF omnidirectional range (VOR) frequency for the VOR navigational aid at Reagan National Airport at 09:55:11 to direct the plane toward Washington, D.C.

Bradshaw, on the phone with her husband, said "Everyone is running up to first class. I've got to go. Bye."[68] Beamer told Jefferson that the group was planning to "jump on" the hijackers and fly the plane into the ground before the hijackers' plan could be followed through.

Beamer recited the Lord's Prayer and the 23rd Psalm with Jefferson, prompting others to join in. Beamer requested of Jefferson, "If I don't make it, please call my family and let them know how much I love them." After this, Jefferson heard muffled voices and Beamer answering, "Are you ready? Okay. Let's roll." These were Beamer's last words to Jefferson.

Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58625 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 9:11 am to
quote:

There are eye witnesses that saw the plane hit the ground ... it wasnt shot

i can get you eye witnesses to anything i want. What can the government do.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
37572 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 9:14 am to
quote:

lol where are the fragments that would have hit the ground if it was "shot down" Dont you think on a clear day in Pennsylvania a lot of people would have seen this.


Or all the conversations the people on the plane had with their families about what they were going to do to try and take the plane back (and then doing it).

9/11 consiracy theorists should be rounded up and sent to a Hadji island.
Posted by greenwave
Member since Oct 2011
3879 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 9:16 am to
There were orders given to shoot down the plane if they wanted. Why would they cover it up if orders were permitted to shoot down planes?

And lets not forget the #1 reason conspiracy theories are dumb.... no one can keep a secret...
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26627 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 12:31 pm to
quote:

Has anyone visited it?
Maybe the overall impression is different in person?

Besides the memorial type aspect of the Tower of Voices, I'd like to see a monument that makes statement about the spirit of the passengers and the powerful testament to our country their action was.
An Eagle/Phoenix rising from the ashes would be a good start...


I have visited the site and lived near it for years.

It's a great memorial that speaks about the heroism and sacrifice those passengers made. The Tower of Voices is only a tiny spot in the entrance to the giant park. It's a suitable and powerful memorial for the people who died there.

You don't leave that memorial with any doubt about the selfless acts of the heroes on that plane that fought back.
This post was edited on 9/11/19 at 12:37 pm
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26627 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 12:32 pm to
quote:

i can get you eye witnesses to anything i want. What can the government do.


If it were shot down with a missile, there would be many crash sites with pieces of the plane all over the countryside.
This post was edited on 9/11/19 at 12:34 pm
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