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re: NASA's making a big exoplanet announcement TODAY, 11AM. Link to Presser in OP

Posted on 7/23/15 at 1:54 pm to
Posted by Lou Pai
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Posted on 7/23/15 at 1:54 pm to
A lens doesn't change distance, it just magnifies light. When we see something far away, we see the reflection of light off of it. It takes light 1400 or so years to reflect off of it and hit the lens of our satelite.
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 7/23/15 at 1:55 pm to
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The telescope looks at a far away star, and sees the shadow of a crossing planet, then they know there is a planet there and how far it is away from that star.


I'm pretty sure it uses wobble and doppler shift, not shadows.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Posted on 7/23/15 at 1:56 pm to
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A lens doesn't change distance, it just magnifies light. When we see something far away, we see the reflection of light off of it. It takes light 1400 or so years to reflect off of it and hit the lens of our satelite.
Exactly so what we are seeing now is the equivalent of looking back at the year 615 for us. Relativity is some crazy shite, huh?
Posted by Jake88
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Posted on 7/23/15 at 1:57 pm to
I realized that after I posted. I had a dim moment fancifully thinking about seeing past objects and civilizations. I should know better.

Posted by LucasP
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Posted on 7/23/15 at 1:58 pm to
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I'm pretty sure it uses wobble


Yes, but this helps with large planets more than it does with earth sized ones to my understanding.

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doppler shift, 


Not sure how that would help identify the planet, just let us know how quickly the star is moving to us or from us.

This post was edited on 7/23/15 at 2:00 pm
Posted by GeauxColonels
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Posted on 7/23/15 at 1:59 pm to
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I'm pretty sure it uses wobble and doppler shift, not shadows.

Yep. It detects minute changes in the brightness of a star and based off some science wizardry that I do nut fully understand, they can estimate size, distance from the star and all other sorts of crazy, marvelous things.

LINK
This post was edited on 7/23/15 at 2:00 pm
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
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Posted on 7/23/15 at 2:01 pm to
SETI needs to beam the shite out of that planet
Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Posted on 7/23/15 at 2:05 pm to
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Yep. It detects minute changes in the brightness of a star and based off some science wizardry that I do nut fully understand, they can estimate size, distance from the star and all other sorts of crazy, marvelous things.
The longer the light is blocked out, the bigger the planet.
Posted by SidewalkDawg
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Posted on 7/23/15 at 2:05 pm to
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Yep. It detects minute changes in the brightness of a star and based off some science wizardry that I do nut fully understand, they can estimate size, distance from the star and all other sorts of crazy, marvelous things.


Not wizardry. Just very very accurate measurements. They get information from a few things, the time of transit, the dip in brightness during transit, the effect it has on the star. When you know the size of the star and the brightness, it's just a matter of punching in X or Y to estimate size and distance.
This post was edited on 7/23/15 at 2:25 pm
Posted by PoppaD
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Posted on 7/23/15 at 2:07 pm to
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When a planet passes in front of a star as viewed from Earth, the event is called a “transit”. On Earth, we can observe an occasional Venus or Mercury transit. These events are seen as a small black dot creeping across the Sun—Venus or Mercury blocks sunlight as the planet moves between the Sun and us. Kepler finds planets by looking for tiny dips in the brightness of a star when a planet crosses in front of it—we say the planet transits the star.


The main instrument looks at the star and if the star dims because a planet passes it it sees it.

The other cool thing about kepler is it is looking in a small area the scientist call local to us in our galaxy and it has found hundreads of planets. If you extrapolate that small area to the whole milky way galaxy that has billions of stars, our galaxy has an unfathomable amount of planets in it.
This post was edited on 7/23/15 at 2:18 pm
Posted by LSU_postman
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Posted on 7/23/15 at 2:15 pm to
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If you extrapolate that small area to the whole milky way galaxy that has billions of stars, our galaxy has an unfathomable anount of planets in it.


Yea and that is just our Galaxy..and Pardon my expression, but "It's a big arse sky sir"
Posted by GeauxColonels
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Posted on 7/23/15 at 2:19 pm to
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Just very very accurate measurements. They get information from a few things, the time of transit, the dip in brightness during transit, the effect it has on the sun. When you know the size of the star and the brightness, it's just a matter of punching in X or Y to estimate size and distance.

Just like I said....science wizardry.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
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Posted on 7/23/15 at 2:20 pm to
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how our species finally parishes


Goes to church?
Posted by LucasP
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Posted on 7/23/15 at 2:21 pm to


My bad
Posted by GeauxColonels
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Posted on 7/23/15 at 2:26 pm to
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how our species finally parishes

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Goes to church?

Nope, they all end up in Louisiana
Posted by the_watcher
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Posted on 7/23/15 at 2:38 pm to
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Exactly, we're not moving faster than light so they would actually see 1400 years into our future. They already know who wins the super bowl the next hundred years and maybe even how our species finally parishes.


Not much, if anything, that you have been saying in this thread is even remotely close to being accurate.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 7/23/15 at 2:40 pm to
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A lens doesn't change distance, it just magnifies light. When we see something far away, we see the reflection of light off of it. It takes light 1400 or so years to reflect off of it and hit the lens of our satelite.


Yes. So what happened again?
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 7/23/15 at 2:44 pm to
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Not much, if anything, that you have been saying in this thread is even remotely close to being accurate.


I'm sure some of it is accurate. That's how science works, you just throw shite against the wall and see what sticks. No way to really know if any of it is accurate.

And I'd argue that my middle school blowjob analogy is accurate as shite.
This post was edited on 7/23/15 at 2:47 pm
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 7/23/15 at 2:58 pm to
This is such nonsense. They are making all these assumptions on a planet 1400 light years away and the possibility of life, yada, yada.........

If the Earth were a few degrees either way on it's axis, no life. A little closer to the sun, no life. A little farther, no life. The atmosphere a little thinner or thicker, no life. A few degrees warmer, no life. A few degrees cooler, no life.


They think they can figure out all these variables on something that far way???


NASA is badass, but lets be real here guys.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 7/23/15 at 3:08 pm to
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They think they can figure out all these variables on something that far way???


No, but there are an infinite number of things to look at in space, so we need a way to filter what we spend time looking at and studying.
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