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re: My little ones were sitting on the sofa with me while I was watching the draft
Posted on 5/12/14 at 2:08 pm to Ponchy Tiger
Posted on 5/12/14 at 2:08 pm to Ponchy Tiger
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Phil Robertson was dead on right something is seriously wrong with a man who prefers a man's anus over a vagina.
How about a woman who prefers a woman's vagina over a man's penis?
Is that the same level of wrong in your opinion?
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Posted on 5/12/14 at 2:10 pm to Green Chili Tiger
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How about a woman who prefers a woman's vagina over a man's penis?
"Need pics to judge"
The OT
Posted on 5/12/14 at 2:11 pm to Darth_Vader
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And he almost certainly sees your way as doing great harm. He has his opinion and you have yours.
No doubt.
The difference is that my view doesn't place my children in the position of being pariahs in 15 years as society moves past this issue. It's also not based on a negative emotion. I can also fully articulate why what 2 people who do not effect me do in their private lives is none of my business.
Mine's a MUCH easier position to defend.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 2:11 pm to Korkstand
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This post was edited on 5/12/14 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 5/12/14 at 2:11 pm to Korkstand
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(Most) gay people just want to be treated "normally".
The effeminate actions and accents say otherwise. Not all gay people are like that. That is trying to fit in with a certain crowd or to make a statement. The parades, etc. etc. is probably because they feed off ridicule.
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Are you agreeing with my suggestion that sexuality is in the same boat with addictions and other emotions, being that they are the results of brain chemistry? I don't follow your argument.
No. I'm saying there is proof that certain personality traits and emotions are inherited. For example, struggles with addiciton, being an emotional person, etc. etc. Sexuality has no link to being genetic/inherited. Basically, I was calling your premise false until proven otherwise.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 2:12 pm to Darth_Vader
I agree. As I posted above regarding my experience with this question when my son was 5. He had never heard of being gay.. so there were no pros or cons formed in his mind yet. He made an "ewwww" face when I said some boys like boys and some girls like girls. It was a completely natural reaction to something he felt was unnatural.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 2:13 pm to Darth_Vader
quote:It isn't homosexuality that is spreading. It is people being honest with themselves and with one another that is spreading.
Others however see the spread of homosexuality as harmful to society as a whole.
You say it as if it's a disease that people can spread. What a terrible mindset.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 2:13 pm to NewOrleansLady
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It was a completely natural reaction to something he felt was unnatural.
ask your 5 year old how he feels about sticking his penis inside a girl's vagina and tell me how he reacts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 2:13 pm to Korkstand
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How old is your son?
He's 12 now. When that happened he was probably about 6 or so. I can't recall exactly.
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Is he in school?
Yes
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Does he have friends?
Yes, one of which who shows clear homosexual tendencies that we've had to talk to our son about. He asked us and we told him that if this kid is like that then it's that kid's business and he should still treat him nice and be his friend.
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Does he see heterosexual couples every day of his life?
Yes
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I promise he didn't determine anything totally on his own.
I promise you he did.
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And did he not react the same way at some point to you and your wife showing affection?
No. We will show an appropriate amount of affection towards one another in our kids presence. Things like holding hands, hugging, kissing. That's what he saw on the TV show and was blown away when he saw two guys doing it instead of us.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 2:14 pm to Walt OReilly
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'm a bigot and I'm cool with that
What is a bigot? Someone who believes in right and wrong?
I do not want to punish people that do what I think is wrong, I just want the freedom to say that I think it is wrong.
Many here want to say, people have the freedom of speech but not the freedom from the consequences of that speech. It seems to me that often that sentiment is not carried over when someone faces consequence from a PC protected position.
Where are the people defending the Dolphin player, or saying that Sams has the right to come out and kiss as he did on TV, but that he is not free from consequences from exercising that freedom?
Posted on 5/12/14 at 2:14 pm to Salmon
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f you tell a child that someone they know is living a lifestyle that you, as the parent, views as immorally wrong, that child is not going to view that person as equal to someone living a lifestyle that you agree with
How is that any different from telling a child that you don't agree with someone living a promiscuous lifestyle? (obviously the child should be a little older when discussing this)
You can't control how someone views you. As long as they do not take away opportunity from you or infringe on your rights, what difference does it make? Despite what the PC thought police wants to happen, people can still have their opinion and the freedom to practice their religion and believe God's word on this and other things.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 2:15 pm to Salmon
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l teach my kids that if something is wrong, that it is perfectly ok to judge the shite out of them
What makes you the judge of what's right and wrong?
Posted on 5/12/14 at 2:16 pm to Caplewood
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How did you become such an expert on parenting
I'm just giving my opinion based on being a parent. Did you ever see me claim to be an expert?
Posted on 5/12/14 at 2:16 pm to Moustache
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How is that any different from telling a child that you don't agree with someone living a promiscuous lifestyle?
it's not...
but don't pretend that the child isn't going to view that person negatively
Posted on 5/12/14 at 2:16 pm to Moustache
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Easy solution. I tell them it's a choice and a sin. We are not to judge them because we all have our own sins we're guilty of.
From the number of down votes it appears that a few on here are not a fan of not judging.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 2:17 pm to colorchangintiger
No. It's not your dad. It's Micheal Sam who is pushing it and his fellow gay mafia cohorts. Your dad just wants to watch football. Micheal Sam wants everyone to know him as gay first and a football player second. Did any straight football players shove cake in their girlfriends faces and make out with them on National TV?
Posted on 5/12/14 at 2:17 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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I feel sorry for your boys. I mean that sincerely.
you shouldn't....my boys are very well behaved, make straight A's, and play multiple sports...and they have been to Disney, Gatlinburg, major sporting events, etc. mulitple times....they have a damn good life and are very happy...and they like and hang around with lots of pretty girls...
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I also feel sorry for you that you feel so strongly about sodomy that you've never enjoyed a blowjob.
well in all fairness I was trying to be "correct" and not just mention what I think of as sodomy...that being a male fricking another in the arse...
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The saddest part of this is that society IS moving away from your brand of thinking and you will be placing your boys in a position of being in a very ugly minority on the coming years, much the same way parents who are racists insist on instilling that brand of ignorance into their children.
wrong...i am very tolerant and don't preach racism in my home...homosexuality is not the same as skin tone or ethnicity..those are things someone cannot control...but choosing to be gay cause its new and hip...is fricking wrong...and society can do what it likes...just as the roman society did toward its ending years as well...the things we see today are very indicative of a society that is in decline...
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I believe you think you're doing what's right, but I see it as doing them great harm.
nah...they will be just fine...active, productive members of society who know where they stand and will not be waivered...we could actually use some more of that imho...instead of spineless liberals who give and give and give until what we had is nothing but a fading memory...i choose to stand for my beliefs...and will raise mine accordingly...
guess i'm an ignorant bigot racist homophobe though...meh...could care less...
Posted on 5/12/14 at 2:17 pm to Moustache
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What makes you the judge of what's right and wrong?
nothing
I only view things as wrong if it effects other or their property
Posted on 5/12/14 at 2:18 pm to SabiDojo
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Colin Cowherd said today, "If you can't answer the tough questions your kids have, then don't have kids."
Let me tell you what, there are quite a few people that I would listen to give me advice before I would listen to that guy. He says things mainly to get people to click on his radio show or to call up his radio show. That is it. As far as what he actually said, here is a little example for Mr. Cowherd. On September 11th, 2001, if your kids came home from school asking you about that, would you have had an answer right away? What about if your wife died in a car wreck and your kids wanted to know why? What if one of their friends parents got a divorce and they learned about it at school that day and came home asking you why? Do you think you would just have a great answer right on the spot? Oh, you wouldn't? Oh ok, well according to Mr. Cowherd, you shouldn't have kids. You see how stupid that is? Look, what happened on Saturday and other things like that are big-time issues. No matter what side of that and other big-time issues you are on, those are never easy things to explain to a child, much less your own child. While I wouldn't come to the O-T Board with help, I certainly understand parents not knowing exactly how they are going to explain issues like this. I would love to offer a response to the OP, but I am definitely not intelligent enough to give you a response that I think would be suitable for your child, you know your child the best and I would use that knowledge of how your child thinks to come up with a good way of explaining what they saw on Saturday. Fortunately for me, I don't have to worry about issues like that for a few years, but now knowing exactly what you are going to say doesn't make you unfit to be a parent, it makes you human.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 2:19 pm to Salmon
Nice diversion attempt there but epic fail. He had never questioned seeing a male and female showing public affection... it was the male on male PDA that he witnessed and thought "Ewwww..".
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