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re: My buddy’s nephew dropped out of the army...is he a coward?
Posted on 8/25/18 at 10:10 pm to Bard
Posted on 8/25/18 at 10:10 pm to Bard
I guess you make a good point. Maybe self selecting yourself out is ok.
I guess it would be weird if later down the road this kid became like a faux-patriot that was pro-military even though he quit
I guess it would be weird if later down the road this kid became like a faux-patriot that was pro-military even though he quit
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Posted on 8/25/18 at 10:29 pm to Flat Stanley
It’s his choice. He wasn’t drafted. His country didn’t call him to service. Also, with the way things are going I would be worried too.
Posted on 8/25/18 at 10:32 pm to Gator5220
Honestly what’s the percentage of 18-25 year olds who join a service? Anyone who doesn’t join have no honor?
Posted on 8/25/18 at 10:39 pm to Flat Stanley
quote:he posted with a sly smirk, as he drank his own farts from a glass
I guess it would be weird if later down the road this kid became like a faux-patriot that was pro-military even though he quit
Posted on 8/25/18 at 10:46 pm to Flat Stanley
The military is not for everyone. Dropping out does not make him a coward or less of a man. If he had abandoned his post during a deployment, that would qualify as cowardly. But, I hope he reevaluates. Plenty of non-combat roles in the Army.
Posted on 8/25/18 at 10:57 pm to Flat Stanley
It takes a man to know his own limits. Don't listen to anyone who calls him a pussy. He would've gotten people killed.
Posted on 8/25/18 at 11:00 pm to OweO
But you can’t
Posted on 8/25/18 at 11:03 pm to Flat Stanley
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Easy there, Mr Anti-war hippy...United States involvement in war is a necessity for the safety and freedom.
Cool it with the language, take a breather, and thank a vet, pardner ?
I find it odd that plenty of other countries prescribe to the exact opposite and they're more economically and socially free the the USA. Posted on 8/25/18 at 11:04 pm to TJGator1215
Another good point...someone that doesn’t think they have the strength, courage, and leadership to join the military should not be anywhere near the level of responsibility that being in the military entails
Posted on 8/25/18 at 11:04 pm to TJGator1215
Maybe he realizes the bullshite he got himself into and got out while he still could.
“Join the Navy, you can see the world.”
Joined the Navy and is changing tires on a plane in Maryland.
“Join the Navy, you can see the world.”
Joined the Navy and is changing tires on a plane in Maryland.
Posted on 8/25/18 at 11:05 pm to Flat Stanley
No. He had the balls to at least try. It's still a profession, shouldn't treat any diff than a random dude changing jobs.
This post was edited on 8/25/18 at 11:06 pm
Posted on 8/25/18 at 11:06 pm to dgnx6
Excellent! Another good point. This kid at least had the balls to give the military a go. Interesting and enlightening perspective
Posted on 8/25/18 at 11:07 pm to Flat Stanley
Agreed. Sucks for him but at least his actions really only fall on him. Where as if he went to war and froze up and got everyone killed it would be worse than being called a coward
Posted on 8/25/18 at 11:56 pm to Champagne
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Nope. I think that the Army and all the rest of them will let you out before you finish Basic Training. All you have to do is tell them that you need to get out of the military for your own mental health.
Not really. Less than 6 months and you can get an uncharacterized discharge if you are a fuyck up but It is the choice of the Army not the soldier, and the discharge is for individuals that are incompatible with military service. Not just wanting to go home.
The soldier could just as easily get an article 15 or a court martial for their refusal to perform.
Posted on 8/26/18 at 1:15 am to Flat Stanley
Same guys calling him a pussy or Coward voted for a 5 time draft dodger...MAGA!
Posted on 8/26/18 at 1:18 am to GeauxtigersMs36
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Honestly what’s the percentage of 18-25 year olds who join a service? Anyone who doesn’t join have no honor?
If you join the military and quit, you have no honor. Especially if you quit because you're afraid of war.
Everyone who goes to war is afraid. But they have honor.
This post was edited on 8/26/18 at 1:22 am
Posted on 8/26/18 at 2:49 am to Flat Stanley
You don’t “drop out” of the Army (unless a ton has changed) once you are in. You either get some sort of questionable discharge or go AWOL or dessert.
Yes in a non-draft environment he’s a coward. He didn’t have to sign up.
Yes in a non-draft environment he’s a coward. He didn’t have to sign up.
Posted on 8/26/18 at 2:58 am to DeafJam73
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The military is not for everyone. Dropping out does not make him a coward or less of a man. If he had abandoned his post during a deployment, that would qualify as cowardly.
That’s kind of how I feel about it too. I know it sounds really bad, but let’s be honest here...kids don’t exactly make the most informed decisions sometimes and God knows recruiters aren’t exactly honest about everything that goes along with joining. It’s not entirely unreasonable to think that kid probably had NO idea what he was getting himself into. It’s better he realize it now and bow out then be a complete frick up or trouble maker in the ranks.
This post was edited on 8/26/18 at 2:59 am
Posted on 8/26/18 at 3:15 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
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You don’t “drop out” of the Army (unless a ton has changed) once you are in. You either get some sort of questionable discharge or go AWOL or dessert. Yes in a non-draft environment he’s a coward. He didn’t have to sign up.
You can be granted a Entry Level Separation during the first 180 days of service for a multitude of reasons, being unable to adapt emotionally and socially to military life is one. Your discharge will simply indicate "Entry Level Separation"
Posted on 8/26/18 at 5:01 am to Flat Stanley
Did he "drop out" or did he become a DEP loss and just not ship to basic?
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