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re: My buddy’s nephew dropped out of the army...is he a coward?

Posted on 8/25/18 at 9:14 pm to
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98350 posts
Posted on 8/25/18 at 9:14 pm to
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I should know this because my parents were in the military but how do you “drop out”? Go AWOL? 

I thought once you signed on the dotted line you belong to them for X years. He knew what the possibilities were when he enlisted.. he should sack up and see it through. 



I knew a guy who quit going to reserve meetings and the MP's came and got him. He spent the rest of his contract on active duty.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
114059 posts
Posted on 8/25/18 at 9:16 pm to
First, he wasn't a draft dodger. There hasn't been a draft since Vietnam. The only thing I see as a problem is the fact he committed to something then bailed. But then again, I can understand how someone can reconsider their decision to be away from their family for long periods to go spend months in a shite hole country where you have your head on a swivel 24/7.
Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
17063 posts
Posted on 8/25/18 at 9:17 pm to
There are so many jobs in the military that never ever ever ever get deployed and if by chance they do get deployed, do very little if any actual combat.

So yeah, that’s pretty cowardly to just tuck tail and run before knowing a single thing about what he would hve to do.
Posted by CobraCommander83
Member since Feb 2017
11556 posts
Posted on 8/25/18 at 9:19 pm to
quote:

I can understand how someone can reconsider their decision to be away from their family for long periods to go spend months in a shite hole country where you have your head on a swivel 24/7.



Its not like it is a hidden secret or anything. Should have thought about it before signing up.
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
56114 posts
Posted on 8/25/18 at 9:27 pm to
I would say that when there is no draft and we are not technically at war, the military is simply a job. Granted, he should have not committed to serve if there was any chance that he would not follow through. I don't think that he dropped out of the military simply because he was scared to go to war....it is simply not that likely that he would find himself in that situation. I think he just found out that the military was not his thing.
Posted by Flat Stanley
Austin
Member since May 2018
164 posts
Posted on 8/25/18 at 9:28 pm to
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So yeah, that’s pretty cowardly to just tuck tail and run before knowing a single thing about what he would hve to do.


I agree with this. Being scared of the unknown is understandable, but actively trying to avoid serving your county seems kind of like a bitch move
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98350 posts
Posted on 8/25/18 at 9:37 pm to
I'm thinking it's less cowardice than laziness and lack of discipline. Or he's trying to avoid a drug test.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 8/25/18 at 9:40 pm to
There is no draft

You bastard. Evil troll.


People don't actually "drop out" of the army. You serve x years. If you do not leave formally it's a crime.

Next time get help when you try to stir up shite.

You are too stupid
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57354 posts
Posted on 8/25/18 at 9:41 pm to
Yes. He's a coward. He knew damn, good, and well that when he signed his enlistment contract there was a very good chance he'd end up in a war zone; even reservists and national guardsmen know this as fact, but continue to serve with honor.
This post was edited on 8/25/18 at 9:45 pm
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
68487 posts
Posted on 8/25/18 at 9:48 pm to
Wars aren’t fought over nations in that region

Posted by PetroBabich
Donetsk Oblast
Member since Apr 2017
4636 posts
Posted on 8/25/18 at 9:48 pm to
Somebody should have told him the wars are over.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
38825 posts
Posted on 8/25/18 at 9:51 pm to
What did he think he was getting into
Posted by Flat Stanley
Austin
Member since May 2018
164 posts
Posted on 8/25/18 at 9:53 pm to
I think he thought It was just going to be all Call of Duty and free Denny’s
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
68487 posts
Posted on 8/25/18 at 9:55 pm to
Did he even report to basic?

Or did he go and couldn’t adjust?
Posted by Flat Stanley
Austin
Member since May 2018
164 posts
Posted on 8/25/18 at 9:58 pm to
I think he went to basic and one of the other guys mentioned how his brother got killed in Iraq and it really spooked him. So he made up some “mental health” thing and got out.

If he really made up some thing to get out of going to war, then he’s truly an unpatriotic shite
Posted by Quigley
Down Under
Member since Jul 2009
4007 posts
Posted on 8/25/18 at 10:01 pm to
Quit? Was this an entry level separation?
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
68487 posts
Posted on 8/25/18 at 10:04 pm to
I made a kid quit West Point on his 2nd day there bc he couldn’t handle getting over the symptoms from tick bites
Posted by beauchristopher
new orleans
Member since Jan 2008
66260 posts
Posted on 8/25/18 at 10:05 pm to
no
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
114059 posts
Posted on 8/25/18 at 10:07 pm to
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Especially like in the 60’s and your name was called.


frick that. I am a country first person when it comes to governing, the country should be first priority instead of party, but I don't think the government should put themselves in a situation they shouldn't be in, then make young men go risk their lives because of it.

And to be honest, if I were a black America during that time, I would be even less willing to go (or more likely to avoid). I am sure this will be unpopular, but if you were denied the same right other people had, simply because your skin is a different color, would you be willing to go fight for that government?

Anyway, my grandfather joined the army the day after Japan attacked pearl harbor. If I thought our country's democracy was being threatened or at risk, there would be no question about it, I would be ready to go to war, otherwise; I don't think there is a problem if someone tries to get out of or decides they do not want to be involved in war.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
51824 posts
Posted on 8/25/18 at 10:07 pm to
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Is being a draft dodger


There hasn't been a draft in decades.


Maybe he just wasn't emotionally ready for that kind of life? Not everyone is ready for that at 18, if that's the case I would rather someone drop out than try serving when not really emotionally capable of it.
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