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re: my beef with adhd kids
Posted on 3/5/15 at 9:16 am to BigEdLSU
Posted on 3/5/15 at 9:16 am to BigEdLSU
I have a step son diagnosed with ADHD. I came into his life at 2 and have been a part of the struggle. His mom is a nurse and as most people in the medical field they think there is a pill for everything, and I am the exact opposite. We had many arguments as he advanced in school. Bad grades, discipline marks for not paying attention, talking out of turn, cant keep still in line ( never disrespectful or bad). The kid did not have a discipline problem, he had self control issues. His mind ran way faster than class and he would lose focus. Not to mention the anxiety he would have at test time that would bring him to tears. Basic homework on things he knows would last all night and end with him and his mother in tears and this was just first and second grade.
We tried the different medications and dosage levels trying to get it right. We are now in fifth grade and he takes a pill in the morning and one at night. He still is very active but has no conduct issues and his grades are awesome. No more issues with homework as long as he does it as soon as he gets home. On weekends we don't medicate him and let him run wild.
Im against medicating for the most part but if this allows him to be successful in school ( no matter if I agree with teaching methods) then im all for it. Also, his self esteem is great now that he isn't the one always being called out in class and makes good grades.
We tried the different medications and dosage levels trying to get it right. We are now in fifth grade and he takes a pill in the morning and one at night. He still is very active but has no conduct issues and his grades are awesome. No more issues with homework as long as he does it as soon as he gets home. On weekends we don't medicate him and let him run wild.
Im against medicating for the most part but if this allows him to be successful in school ( no matter if I agree with teaching methods) then im all for it. Also, his self esteem is great now that he isn't the one always being called out in class and makes good grades.
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Posted on 3/5/15 at 9:21 am to Motorboat
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If my son has a chemical imbalance, then God made him that way and I refuse to medicate a change.
what if God made your kid have cancer? I don't follow your logic.
This was my exact thought when he post that crap
Posted on 3/5/15 at 9:22 am to SuperSaint
quote:Never did that to be cool, but I've got to watch myself and make sure I leave the bottle at home when I go out. I've gone through massive amounts in one night/next day, like a couple hundred mg.
would snort them to be cool
I have pretty bad impulse control though,with the worse of it being "impulse aggression" is what the doctor calls it. I don't think that had anything to do with my ability to focus on schoolwork though. That is literally hard for me to do without meds
This post was edited on 3/5/15 at 9:25 am
Posted on 3/5/15 at 9:24 am to BigEdLSU
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Let me thank you for your post. Very well thought out.
My son is one of those kids who is a disruption. I know he is. He's so far past his classmates he gets bored and goofs off all day.
He doesn't act that way when I'm around. Why? Because I'll whoop his arse and he knows it.
Too bad the school won't. I'd let them.
But although he may hinder little johnny from learning his ABCs, why is it OK for his classmates to hold him back to their slow pace of digesting information?
I think that common sense should apply here.
If you think the disruption issue of your child is a result of him being advanced and bored, then why the hell wouldn't you put him in a place that solves that issue?
Assuming the class is moving at a reasonable, normal pace for his grade, a reasonable person wouldn't expect the class to be taught to the single exceptional student in the class at the expense of all of the others.
In other words, if that's the issue, you are failing your kid by keeping him in that learning environment. And, that's pretty much my point. Either the issue is a medical one (you've seen many here say that there is no way to overcome adhd without medication) or it's a parenting issue (you've seemed to admit this in your post).
Posted on 3/5/15 at 9:24 am to BigEdLSU
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If my son has a chemical imbalance, then God made him that way and I refuse to medicate a change.
What if he were depressed or bipolar?
Posted on 3/5/15 at 9:27 am to BigEdLSU
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Because ascension parish would rather inflate school scores by refusing to have a magnet program. I have no options.
Seems to me if that your kid is scoring twice as high as everyone in his class there isn't much of a need for a magnet program in Ascension.
This post was edited on 3/5/15 at 9:28 am
Posted on 3/5/15 at 9:27 am to moneyg
Probably 5% of people actually on ADD meds really need it. I was a really bad kid, and also really bored at school, but that had nothing to do with ADD.
If you want a good answer, talk to a lower school tutor or teacher
If you want a good answer, talk to a lower school tutor or teacher
Posted on 3/5/15 at 9:29 am to BigEdLSU
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He's so far past his classmates he gets bored
In cases like this it could be worth seeing if he could skip a grade.
I agree that our current education system is not looking out for our best and brightest. It looks out for the below average to average.
Posted on 3/5/15 at 9:31 am to BigEdLSU
1) There are non stimulate meds such as strattera and intuniv.
2) Studies have shown that ADHD people exhibit rapid eye movement in a way that non ADHD people do not. It's a product of the brain struggling to focus on one single thing.
My experience with ADHD is frustrating to say the least. My parents had various tests run on me as a kid which included an IQ test and a hearing exam. They told my parents that I was borderline ADHD, and my parents chose not to medicate me. Unfortunately, they also didn't try any additional behavior management, or try and work on my study habits.
As early as I can remember I was a space cadet at school. Time would jump from a teacher lecturing to everyone around me working on an assignment. I hadn't even realized we had moved on.
These things continued throughout as I got older. I was able to make decent grades, but always felt like I should be doing better. At times my grades did suffer, but occasionally I would use a tutor to pull me out of a hole.
When I got to college, things quickly went south. I suddenly didn't have the required homework assignments to help me learn the material. After my freshman year I got on a stimulant medication, and I began to turn things around. Unfortunately the negative side effects got to be too much, and I eventually got off of it.
As time went on I struggled to sit down and concentrate more and more. I would feel incredibly impulsive to the point that I felt anxious.
After several years of this roller-coaster, I went back two specialists. They said that the anxiety is a common issue with ADHD in adults. You are trying to sit down and knock stuff out, but because you are unable to you become anxious.
Now, as an adult I am on non stimulant medication. It really has turned my life around. However I still have issues from time to time, but now knowing how to work through them makes a huge difference.
2) Studies have shown that ADHD people exhibit rapid eye movement in a way that non ADHD people do not. It's a product of the brain struggling to focus on one single thing.
My experience with ADHD is frustrating to say the least. My parents had various tests run on me as a kid which included an IQ test and a hearing exam. They told my parents that I was borderline ADHD, and my parents chose not to medicate me. Unfortunately, they also didn't try any additional behavior management, or try and work on my study habits.
As early as I can remember I was a space cadet at school. Time would jump from a teacher lecturing to everyone around me working on an assignment. I hadn't even realized we had moved on.
These things continued throughout as I got older. I was able to make decent grades, but always felt like I should be doing better. At times my grades did suffer, but occasionally I would use a tutor to pull me out of a hole.
When I got to college, things quickly went south. I suddenly didn't have the required homework assignments to help me learn the material. After my freshman year I got on a stimulant medication, and I began to turn things around. Unfortunately the negative side effects got to be too much, and I eventually got off of it.
As time went on I struggled to sit down and concentrate more and more. I would feel incredibly impulsive to the point that I felt anxious.
After several years of this roller-coaster, I went back two specialists. They said that the anxiety is a common issue with ADHD in adults. You are trying to sit down and knock stuff out, but because you are unable to you become anxious.
Now, as an adult I am on non stimulant medication. It really has turned my life around. However I still have issues from time to time, but now knowing how to work through them makes a huge difference.
Posted on 3/5/15 at 9:37 am to Bmath
Try having really bad memory problems along with ADD. I have to keep top of stuff every single day, or I'm completely lost
Posted on 3/5/15 at 9:39 am to LSU0358
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I agree that our current education system is not looking out for our best and brightest. It looks out for the below average to average.
Logistically, teachers have to teach to the middle 60/ 80%. Any one with a kid on the upper or lower end has to seek help on their own. It's a completely understandable situation.
Posted on 3/5/15 at 9:40 am to FelicianaTigerfan
My son is 6 now and is on a medicine for his hyper activity. We went to several doctors to seek out several opinions. The final choice was to put him on Quillivant, an oral suspension. We can control the dosage and worked with our doctor to get it right. My son is not a zombie by any stretch, he is probably one of the more liked kids in his school. He is active but now his activities are more purposeful and focused. This was a long process to put him on it, my wife and I were very against it and fought it for a couple of years. Whenever we would go to Church, Birthday parties friends houses etc, he was always the kid getting in trouble or being gotten on to. My wife and I stayed on him and we are not slouch parents by any means. It became pretty clear that he could not help his impulses and we had no idea how to help him with them either. With his medicine his grades and behavior have improved exponentially. I am sure there are some parents that just throw their kids on medicine so they don't have to deal with a hyper active kid, there are also several others who do it because they truly care for their child and want what is best for them. I can only do what I think is best for my child and if you don't agree with it that is your business.
Posted on 3/5/15 at 9:40 am to BigEdLSU
Better yet, when people lived on farms and kids had to do farm chores before school, they were too TIRED to get in trouble.
Posted on 3/5/15 at 9:43 am to RadTiger
Did it ever occur to you that he is so far past his peers because of what I teach him at home?
It isn't because of what he learns in school.
It isn't because of what he learns in school.
Posted on 3/5/15 at 9:48 am to BigEdLSU
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Did it ever occur to you that he is so far past his peers because of what I teach him at home?
It isn't because of what he learns in school.
Solve that problem.
Posted on 3/5/15 at 9:54 am to prplhze2000
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Better yet, when people lived on farms and kids had to do farm chores before school, they were too TIRED to get in trouble.
ADHD is very much something that has become noticed and a problem in modern society. It wasn't really until the last 100 years or so that people have more and more been forced to sit still in a spot for hours on end with their undivided attention focused on one single thing.
1st world society is moving away from blue collar labor type jobs. We also demand greater and higher education for each generation.
We then expect everyone to fit into the mold of a worker drone that sits at a desk for hours on end wading through paperwork.
Some people think tough luck, and those that can't focus need to be simply pushed into the remaining manual labor fields. This is fine for some, but what about someone with 130+ IQ? Do you really want them working as a welder when they have the curiosity and intellectual ability to be a research scientist?
Posted on 3/5/15 at 9:56 am to moneyg
I'm much better at pointing out problems than solving them
Posted on 3/5/15 at 9:59 am to BigEdLSU
From Bill Engvall:
"I had ADD once. My dad spanked me and I got my attention back."
A lot of truth in that imo
"I had ADD once. My dad spanked me and I got my attention back."
A lot of truth in that imo
Posted on 3/5/15 at 10:16 am to lsuhunt555
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Based on my 19 month old son's personality, I fully expect him to be this way. If any teacher or administrator ever tells me to turn him into a zombie im going to laugh at them. I refuse to medicate my child for some made up disease because shitty teachers cant deal with energetic kids.
You're being stupid. You have no idea how your child will be when they are 10 based on how they are at 19 months.
Posted on 3/5/15 at 10:19 am to BigEdLSU
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If my son has a chemical imbalance, then God made him that way and I refuse to medicate a change.
You can't be serious.
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