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re: Murder/rape from 28 yrs ago in Starkville solved
Posted on 1/20/19 at 11:43 am to kciDAtaE
Posted on 1/20/19 at 11:43 am to kciDAtaE
what stops them from using it for unknown purposes in the future though? and what kind of definitive match is necessary to prove guilt beyond a dna match? we know that the perception of society is that since DNA is so unique to almost every person that is is considered almost infallible, but you leave your biological footprint in the world everyday. if your hair ends up on a murder victim and you were home alone and cant prove your innocence then what stops them from using that hair to convince a jury made of members of society that you were a part of that murder? It seems like a slippery slope, even if its not that probable. I don't consider myself a conspiracy theorist, but I'm not so naive to believe that there are factions of government who believe that sometimes individuals have to be sacrificed to protect the agenda. 
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 11:51 am to georgia
I didn't read any of the stories. Someone said he was already in jail for meth? Wouldn't they take his DNA for that? They may have had a DNA hit on this guy anyway once it got in the system.
Posted on 1/20/19 at 11:53 am to Clutch Cargo
quote:Yet another reason not to use these
28th case solved through matching from sources like Ancestry.com and 23 And Me.
Posted on 1/20/19 at 12:02 pm to Cosmo
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Why would you PAY somebody to TAKE your DNA? shite is insane
The Army already has my fingerprints, history, and blood. What’s a little saliva
Posted on 1/20/19 at 12:03 pm to kciDAtaE
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Why would it matter if you didn’t rape or kill someone?
Guess I shouldnt care about NSA listening on my calls since I committed no crime
Posted on 1/20/19 at 12:22 pm to Clutch Cargo
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these businesses are going to create a revenue stream by sharing it and finding matches (or near matches of distant relatives for generations to come).
or they are going to lose business after people stop submitting samples knowing the company will turn it over to law enforcement
Posted on 1/20/19 at 12:37 pm to White Roach
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If this were true, don't you think the closure rate on violent crimes would be much higher than it is over the past 15 or 20 years? If the gov't has everyone's DNA who is under ~35, don't you think they'd be using it?
Apparently it's California.
LINK
Posted on 1/20/19 at 12:43 pm to ReauxlTide222
So you would rather murders and rapes go unsolved and violent criminals not caught? Who cares if they use these databases as long as they catch the people who are responsible
This post was edited on 1/20/19 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 1/20/19 at 12:48 pm to GRTiger
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Why would you do one of those things if you murdered someone?
why do guys rob 3 banks in 3 weeks in same area when the odds are only 1 out of 4 you'll be caught if you just do one?
Dumbassery
Posted on 1/20/19 at 12:50 pm to Tempratt
That's crazy, even for CA.
Posted on 1/20/19 at 12:52 pm to georgia
It seems analogous to fingerprints in some ways in that it is a unique identifier and most people put in jail get their fingerprints done and run.
But in this case they clearly stated that his dna was NOT collected just because he was in jail, that is why they had to get a sample that was collected in a public place in the form of cigarette butt.
It will be interesting to see if in the near future states start collecting dna on all people arrested, similar to fingerprints.
But in this case they clearly stated that his dna was NOT collected just because he was in jail, that is why they had to get a sample that was collected in a public place in the form of cigarette butt.
It will be interesting to see if in the near future states start collecting dna on all people arrested, similar to fingerprints.
Posted on 1/20/19 at 1:47 pm to ReauxlTide222
quote:Maybe but a relative can use them and it lead to you.
Yet another reason not to use these
I recently was found by a cousin in England that I didn't know I had.
It seems my uncle left some lady with a baby boy back in WWII.
He never knew his father's name. He did ancestry.com.
My mother's cousin's daughter took the test.
That match lead him to us.
The entire family is vulnerable through her test.
Posted on 1/20/19 at 2:05 pm to Clutch Cargo
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This is going to start happening more and more
That also counts for breaking up families when the father finds out he isn't really the father
Posted on 1/20/19 at 2:07 pm to Cosmo
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Why would you PAY somebody to TAKE your DNA? shite is insane.
What are you worried about? You hiding something?
Posted on 1/20/19 at 2:22 pm to zatetic
quote:2 cousins have found me.
That also counts for breaking up families when the father finds out he isn't really the father
2 fathers would be pretty pissed at my uncle if they were still alive.
Posted on 1/20/19 at 3:50 pm to Cosmo
Hea Cosmo - I ran you through the NSA data base and got all kinds of hits on you. The most startling one I saw was impersonation of some dude named Kramer. Seems he is pretty much non-PC. I guess they are pretty upset about that.
This post was edited on 1/20/19 at 3:54 pm
Posted on 1/20/19 at 5:56 pm to Clutch Cargo
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In concurrence with Lott, Durr said the secret weapon for bringing a suspect to the case was prayer.
“Our secret weapon is we stopped each step of this (case) and prayed before we did anything,” Durr said of he and Lott
Jesus 1
Rapist 0
Posted on 1/20/19 at 7:59 pm to SPEEDY
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or they are going to lose business after people stop submitting samples knowing the company will turn it over to law enforcement
That's not the way this works
Individuals are voluntarily uploading their DNA data to a 3rd party website. GEDMatch.com
ancestry.com and 23andme are not the ones uploading the data nor allowing law enforcement access.
Posted on 1/20/19 at 8:19 pm to hob
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That's not the way this works
Individuals are voluntarily uploading their DNA data to a 3rd party website. GEDMatch.com
Bears repeating. GED is an open source DNA database. Anyone who uses it knows this.
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