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Posted on 12/3/21 at 12:25 pm to LegendInMyMind
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I said, near the beginning whatever this exchange is, to charge them and let the court sort it out. You've since gone on some gotcha goose chase that no one seems to understand.
Why do they need to be charged in your opinion if you didn't think they committed a crime?
We both know you think a crime w as committed here. Not sure why you can't just admit that.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 12:26 pm to LegendInMyMind
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No, it isn't.
One is actual negligence.Posted on 12/3/21 at 12:27 pm to LNCHBOX
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One is actual negligence.
I'd argue they both are.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 12:27 pm to LegendInMyMind
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I'd argue they both are.
Obviously. But that's just like your opinion man.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 12:29 pm to BluegrassBelle
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Have to agree. If we charge parents who have guns out that a toddler picks up in the home and shoots themselves this isn’t a whole lot different.
There is actually a case in my city right now where a parent left a gun sitting out and a child shot himself. He was charged - I think appropriately.
I'm a bit more reluctant to say these charges were appropriate without more information on how the kid came into possession of this gun.
This post was edited on 12/3/21 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 12/3/21 at 12:29 pm to cable
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There is actually a case in my city right now where a parent left a gun sitting out and a child shot himself. He was charged - I think appropriately.
That is a very appropriate charge.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 12:29 pm to LNCHBOX
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We both know you think a crime w as committed here. Not sure why you can't just admit that.
I don't know if a crime was committed here. It is not my job to figure it out. I said that. You can't read.
I believe there should be a crime they could be charged with. That doesn't mean that there is. If there isn't, fine. That doesn't change my opinion that the parents share responsibility for what happened.
Now, you can continue being willfully dense if you want. I'm done with this "debate".
Posted on 12/3/21 at 12:31 pm to LegendInMyMind
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I believe there should be a crime they could be charged with.
But you won't admit you think they committed a crime? OK, you're obviously just trolling.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 12:32 pm to LNCHBOX
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But you won't admit you think they committed a crime?
Maybe he just doesn't know the ins and outs of Michigan law, so he doesn't want to talk out of his arse.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 12:32 pm to LNCHBOX
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But you won't admit you think they committed a crime? OK, you're obviously just trolling
You are one of the dumbest people I think I have ever had the displeasure of engaging with.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 12:32 pm to LegendInMyMind
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You are one of the dumbest people I think I have ever had the displeasure of engaging with.
Again, you opinion means literally nothing to me. ETA So much for being "done"
This post was edited on 12/3/21 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 12/3/21 at 12:34 pm to The Spleen
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Maybe he just doesn't know the ins and outs of Michigan law, so he doesn't want to talk out of his arse.
Or he just refuses to admit that he thinks a crime was committed. Which is weird because that has been his stance this whole time. quote:
You're responsible for raising that child. You're responsible for the actions of that child. If you leave a firearm where they can get it and shoot up a school or steal multiple cars, you should bear some of that responsibility. Manslaughter? Probably not, under the current law, but your arse needs to spend some time in jail.
This post was edited on 12/3/21 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 12/3/21 at 12:37 pm to BluegrassBelle
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Have to agree. If we charge parents who have guns out that a toddler picks up in the home and shoots themselves this isn’t a whole lot different.
A toddler cant distinguish what is a real gun vs a toy gun. They may not even know what the object is vs a teenager that knows full well that the weapon can kill. Its a lot different.
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We desperately need more parental responsibility. Period.
Ok what laws would you propose?
Posted on 12/3/21 at 12:41 pm to LNCHBOX
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LNCHBOX
You still cannot distinguish the difference between what I believe the law should be verses what the law actually is.
You're being willfully dense just to keep playing your gotcha game.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 12:43 pm to LegendInMyMind
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You still cannot distinguish the difference between what I believe the law should be verses what the law actually is.
So the charges against the parents aren't real?
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You're being willfully dense just to keep playing your gotcha game.
I really don't even get what you're arguing at this point. You have said from the jump that the parents are criminally responsible and should get jail time. These are facts not up for debate. Maybe go ahead and actually stick you your "done debating" claim.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 12:45 pm to LNCHBOX
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So the charges against the parents aren't real?
Willfully dense, again.
You understand just because you are charged with a crime doesn't mean, under that law, that you are guilty of that crime, right?
Hence, my saying that the courts will figure it out.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 12:46 pm to LNCHBOX
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I really don't even get what you're arguing at this point.
That doesn't surprise me.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 12:46 pm to LegendInMyMind
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Willfully dense, again.
You understand just because you are charged with a crime doesn't mean, under that law, that you are guilty of that crime, right?
Hence, my saying that the courts will figure it out.
But when you say they need jail time, you obviously think they are guilty of a crime.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 12:47 pm to LegendInMyMind
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That doesn't surprise me.
Oh look, yet another insult
Absolutely dynamite choice on user name btw. I think only nitwit has a more fitting name.
This post was edited on 12/3/21 at 12:48 pm
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