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re: Multiple People Shot at Michigan High School. Student kills 3, wounds 6

Posted on 12/3/21 at 12:18 pm to
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/3/21 at 12:18 pm to
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If you buy the kid a gun, then you assume the responsibility of training the kid and insuring that the gun is used safely.


Who says the parents didn't do that?
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If you're not willing to assume that responsibility, don't buy the kid a gun.


So should any parent that let their kids take karate class be criminally responsible if they child kicks the crap out of someone else? Where do you draw the line?
Posted by LegendInMyMind
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Posted on 12/3/21 at 12:18 pm to
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What crime did the parents commit?

It isn't my job to figure that one out, hoss.

If they didn't commit a crime, then they shouldn't be charged. If they're charged and their actions don't fit the charges, then they will be found not guilty.

That doesn't change the fact that I believe there should be appropriate charges they can face.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/3/21 at 12:18 pm to
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It's hilarious watching you flail around refusing to see the forest because of all the trees.

I couldn't care less what you find funny.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
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Posted on 12/3/21 at 12:18 pm to
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So should any parent that let their kids take karate class be criminally responsible if they child kicks the crap out of someone else? Where do you draw the line?

Oh for frick's sake.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/3/21 at 12:19 pm to
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It isn't my job to figure that one out, hoss.

But yo are so certain they did. ADA Binger, is that you?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/3/21 at 12:19 pm to
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Oh for frick's sake.


Don't get mad at me for following you asinine logic.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
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Posted on 12/3/21 at 12:19 pm to
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But yo are so certain they did.

Show me, exactly, where I said that.
Posted by The Spleen
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Posted on 12/3/21 at 12:20 pm to
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Who says the parents didn't do that?



I'd say the fact that 3 days after they bought it for him, he took the gun to his school and killed 4 people with it, and wounded a few others.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
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Posted on 12/3/21 at 12:20 pm to
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Who says the parents didn't do that?

The kid took the gun to school and killed people. Clearly, they didn't do that.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/3/21 at 12:20 pm to
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Show me, exactly, where I said that.
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That doesn't change the fact that I believe there should be appropriate charges they can face.


Don't back down now.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
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Posted on 12/3/21 at 12:21 pm to
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Don't get mad at me for following you asinine logic

You're so precious.
Posted by cable
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Posted on 12/3/21 at 12:21 pm to
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If you buy the kid a gun, then you assume the responsibility of training the kid and insuring that the gun is used safely. If you're not willing to assume that responsibility, don't buy the kid a gun.


I agree with this. I took hunter's safety before I was ever allowed to hold a real gun. I also received a lot of training from family members on safely using a firearm. There are far too many idiots that don't understand guns that are in possession of them these days. Everyone should have some basic instruction on the proper use of guns and how they operate before owning them.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/3/21 at 12:21 pm to
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You're so precious.


I'd deflect too.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
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Posted on 12/3/21 at 12:22 pm to
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Don't back down now.

Are you incapable of understanding the difference between actual law and what I believe the law should be?

fricking hell, you're an idiot.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 12/3/21 at 12:22 pm to
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Involuntary manslaughter because the parents had a gun available to their juvenile child to use without supervision of any kind. It's reckless and irresponsible as frick.


Have to agree. If we charge parents who have guns out that a toddler picks up in the home and shoots themselves this isn’t a whole lot different.

We desperately need more parental responsibility. Period.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
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Posted on 12/3/21 at 12:22 pm to
What is precious is that you truly believe you've won some sort of debate here.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/3/21 at 12:23 pm to
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Are you incapable of understanding the difference between actual law and what I believe the law should be?

fricking hell, you're an idiot.


So you thin they should be charged, and they are charged. But I'm the idiot here for saying you 100% think they should be charged?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/3/21 at 12:23 pm to
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What is precious is that you truly believe you've won some sort of debate here.


Keep deflecting.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/3/21 at 12:24 pm to
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If we charge parents who have guns out that a toddler picks up in the home and shoots themselves this isn’t a whole lot different.



It's extremely different. Holy shite, some of yall are insane.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 12/3/21 at 12:24 pm to
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So you thin they should be charged, and they are charged. But I'm the idiot here for saying you 100% think they should be charged?

I said, near the beginning whatever this exchange is, to charge them and let the court sort it out. You've since gone on some gotcha goose chase that no one seems to understand.
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