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re: Multiple crashes on I-55 Manchac Swamp Bridge, at least 7 dead

Posted on 10/23/23 at 1:50 pm to
Posted by Saintsisit
Member since Jan 2013
5252 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 1:50 pm to
Most people in ultra thick fog don't want to look down at their speed even for a split second. Especially if they're on an interstate.
Posted by Quatrepot
Member since Jun 2023
4154 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 1:52 pm to
Always amazes me how close people follow while doing 65+ mph. Reaction time very low at that rate and above.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
31550 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 1:59 pm to
Drove home in this stuff this morning. It was bad past Manchac. Guess I missed all this

Working nights is gonna be fun tonight. I’ve got to figure out how the hell to get to work tonight. And driving home tomorrow morning is gonna be a ton of fun.
Posted by Ziggy
Member since Oct 2007
22108 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 2:02 pm to
quote:

I remember watching a news piece (20/20 maybe?) back in the 90s discussing these massive wrecks in fog, and they kept finding high speeds to blame.

Logic would suggest you slow down instinctively in fog since you can't see, but the tests showed since you lack the perception of speed, you speed up. You can't see the world wizzing past you and end up going significantly faster than you think you are.

Just something that has stuck out to me this many years later.


Thanks for sharing this - something I never really thought about, but makes sense.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
72080 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 2:02 pm to
Most of them have no situational awareness at all and are completely oblivious to the danger
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78362 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 2:02 pm to
Someone just posted this to reddit, take it fwiw

quote:

Was part of the ems response to this, 5 dead, 7 critical, 46 total pts transported to the hospital, looked like the fricking end of the world.
Posted by RaginCajunz
Member since Mar 2009
7200 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 2:03 pm to
quote:

quote:
but the tests showed since you lack the perception of speed, you speed up. You can't see the world wizzing past you and end up going significantly faster than you think you are.


If only they put gadgets in cars that let you know how fast you are actually going it could probably solve this...

I agree, but we all have a natural perception of how fast we are going, that is dulled in heavy fog and the point of my post.
Posted by HooDooWitch
TD Bronze member
Member since Sep 2009
11298 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 2:03 pm to
Hate to see this. Those cab over trucks don't offer much in the way of driver protection.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78362 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 2:04 pm to
quote:

Logic would suggest you slow down instinctively in fog since you can't see, but the tests showed since you lack the perception of speed, you speed up. You can't see the world wizzing past you and end up going significantly faster than you think you are.



I think I saw the exact same thing. I was recounting this to someone I was driving with a few minutes ago.
Posted by Ziggy
Member since Oct 2007
22108 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 2:04 pm to
DAMN. Terrible.
Posted by LivingstonLaw
Livingston County
Member since Jul 2021
3316 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 2:09 pm to
Actually there is a state that has no speed limits. I think it is Montana. You never hear of wrecks like this insurance is not high there. Some countries even eliminated speed limits noting it did more harm than good. You want to put Morris Bart out of business? Eliminate speed limits. Insurance rates will drop.
Posted by LivingstonLaw
Livingston County
Member since Jul 2021
3316 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 2:11 pm to
On that note Final Destination is on TV. Ow. Perfect timing HBO max
Posted by NatalbanyTigerFan
On the water somewhere
Member since Oct 2007
8599 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 2:13 pm to
quote:

Was part of the ems response to this

Was?

It's still going on, it'll probably affect traffic tomorrow as well.
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
25685 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 2:14 pm to
No dash cam footage?
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78362 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 2:14 pm to
End of shift maybe?

Maybe the injured are out and now on to the vehicles.
Posted by RaginCajunz
Member since Mar 2009
7200 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 2:15 pm to
quote:

No dash cam footage?



I'd imagine any dash cam footage is from vehicles still stuck in the mess
Posted by saturday
Pronoun (Baw)
Member since Feb 2007
7949 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 2:15 pm to
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Did that driver make it?




I hope so, that looks really bad.
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
49636 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 2:16 pm to
quote:

quote:
Was part of the ems response to this


Was?

It's still going on, it'll probably affect traffic tomorrow as well.


Sounds like EMS is done on the scene.
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
12651 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 2:18 pm to
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they don’t have a leg to stand this is a act God type thing.


That is what I was thinking. Would that just put your insurance as the payee instead of trying to find out who would be at wrong? More than likely the chief cause would be the one with minimum coverage and would not have enough coverage to cover one accident let alone multiple ones.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
48833 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 2:23 pm to
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I agree, but we all have a natural perception of how fast we are going, that is dulled in heavy fog and the point of my post.
if your vehicle is traveling 70 mph, "you" are also traveling at 70 mph. the perception of speed, for you, is only relative to a background of things that are not traveling 70 mph (the trees next to the road, for instance). if you cant see the things that arent moving, or are moving slower than you are, you have no way to perceive your speed.
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