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re: MSY Terminal Plumbing Issues due to desire to be cheap
Posted on 8/15/19 at 8:34 am to fightin tigers
Posted on 8/15/19 at 8:34 am to fightin tigers
Wow, okay at least we're not Berlin.
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Posted on 8/15/19 at 8:45 am to Anaximander
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We celebrated a 300th Anniversary and the only gifts left by Mitch Landrieu to New Orleans were decaying infrastructure, flooded streets, an unopened airport with no access road that is already three times over budget, the highest sales tax in the country, the highest auto insurance in the country, the highest electric cost in the state, the highest sewerage/water/garbage fees in the country, an understaffed police force, underfunded pensions and three empty pedestals. Before the first Landrieu took office in 1970, New Orleans was the 19th largest city in the country with more citizens than Nashville, Atlanta, Minneapolis and Miami. By the time Mitch left, New Orleans was not one of the top 50 cities in America. Landrieus have done far more to damage this city than any hurricane.
But the statues...
Posted on 8/15/19 at 8:56 am to Anaximander
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A backup at the old terminal almost never backed up onto the already crowded interstate because of the length of the access road. Now, that buffer is gone. Get ready for some rides through Kenner on I-10 which are even more nightmarish than previous.
The backups are caused by cars waiting to drop off / pick up, and cars waiting to enter parking garages.
The capacity of the drop off and pick up areas has been dramatically increased, and with the delays in opening, the airport will now open with all of the new parking facilities completed, which offer more spots than the existing facilities. because of all of this, I would expect fewer cars to actually be waiting in line, which should mean the shorter distance will be ok.
Posted on 8/15/19 at 8:58 am to LSUFanHouston
The problem will be the i10 interchange which will back up to i10 on the reg
Posted on 8/15/19 at 8:59 am to LSUFanHouston
They also built the thing on the edge of a geologic fault
Posted on 8/15/19 at 9:00 am to Sentrius
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his new terminal needs to be shut down until it's completely finished with all the necessary road infrastructure including the flyover ramp.
I hear what you are saying, but there are a couple of problems.
1) The terminal was built with a mix of airport authority savings, federal grants, and bond money. The bond money is being repaid via a $1 increase in landing fees per person, projected increased concession revenue, and projected efficiency savings. I don't think the bondholders are going to be willing to wait to start collecting their payments, and the facility needs to be open to allow the cash stream to cover the payments.
2) A lot of other entities have put money into that facility. The airlines have spent large amounts on equipment, computers, etc. The retail and food/beverage outlets have built out and outfitted their spaces (or are in the process of doing so). They need to start making money. Remember, a LOT of the vendors in the new terminal aren't currently in the old terminal.
Posted on 8/15/19 at 9:01 am to Anaximander
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The sinking taxiways, busted plumbing and unfinished access road are ALL a result of Landrieu's vain attempt to rush the airport so it would have been done before he left office.
I cannot wait for something to finally happen to this a-hole. We all know it's coming.
Posted on 8/15/19 at 9:02 am to dagrippa
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But the statues...
He had the power to simply remove the statues almost immediately and could have done so but he WANTED to stretch it out and blow up the coverage which then brought the unwashed thugs from Antifa and the unwashed toothless wonders with the confederate flags from out of state and then more coverage. His plot for self-aggrandizing media cost the city more division and millions of dollars. IF he wanted to make it about moving the city to a better place he should have framed the discussion about what would have been built in place of those statues to celebrate our 300th anniversary rather than the scheme he pulled off.
Posted on 8/15/19 at 9:03 am to Cosmo
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The problem will be the i10 interchange which will back up to i10 on the reg
That's a different issue.
The timing of the signals at I-10/Loyola and Vets/Loyola is going to be critical. I've also felt that they may end up needing to just hire police to control the signals during the busiest parts of the day.
Posted on 8/15/19 at 9:05 am to LSUFanHouston
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he backups are caused by cars waiting to drop off / pick up, and cars waiting to enter parking garages.
The capacity of the drop off and pick up areas has been dramatically increased, and with the delays in opening, the airport will now open with all of the new parking facilities completed, which offer more spots than the existing facilities. because of all of this, I would expect fewer cars to actually be waiting in line, which should mean the shorter distance will be ok.
Where are you getting your information on increased capacity. Traffic flow information is sketchy at best. The linear footage of dropoff and pickup areas is about the same. I do know the new drop off area is not properly covered from the elements and you will get rained on when dropped off.
As to parking capacity, there will be LESS spots at the new terminal but more overall when combined with the garages at the old terminal. Of course there will also be far more shuttle trips as the Rental car lots are now on the far side of the airport.
This post was edited on 8/15/19 at 9:13 am
Posted on 8/15/19 at 9:05 am to Napoleon
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Now there isn't that direct road anymore with no lights, but the current set up will service.
It's going to be a clusterfrick. None of the the current paths to get there are sized enough to deal with the traffic volume. You are waaaaay underselling the impact of the lack of proper infrastructure.
Posted on 8/15/19 at 9:06 am to EastBankTiger
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Remember, he also appointed the uncle of his side piece / baby momma (ALLEGEDLY) to be the Aviation Director at MSY.
Meh, I don't like Mitch one bit, but Doliolle has been a good aviation director, as was Ithkar (or however you spell it) before him.
Doliolle didn't sign this contact, and when Ithkar left right after signing it, that was very concerning to me. It's almost like he knew this was going to be a shitshow and got out.
Posted on 8/15/19 at 9:08 am to LNCHBOX
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I cannot wait for something to finally happen to this a-hole. We all know it's coming.
Doubt it. Once you become powerful and elite you are almost untouchable.
Posted on 8/15/19 at 9:13 am to Cosmo
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Once you become powerful and elite you are almost untouchable.
He’s not that powerful or elite.
And if the Feds want you they will get you.
Posted on 8/15/19 at 9:13 am to LSUFanHouston
Wait til the public gets wind of all the lawsuits that are going to plague this building.
Posted on 8/15/19 at 9:14 am to Art Vandelay
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You said it, it’s a fricking swamp. There’s not enough concrete in the world to make that place stable
Mitch’s cousin that was awarded the bid for the concrete begs to differ.
This post was edited on 8/15/19 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 8/15/19 at 9:14 am to Anaximander
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As to parking capacity, there will be LESS spots at the new terminal but more overall when combined with the garages at the old terminal.
My understanding, from a lunch presentation I attended a few weeks ago, is that there approx 5000 parking spots at old terminal, and 5600 parking spots at new terminal. They will also keep about 2500 spots at the old terminal as an economy / shuttle garage.
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Traffic flow information is sketchy at best.
Agreed and this is concerning. I'd really like to know how they are going to handle these shuttles. It seems like, from what I have heard and been able to put together, is that they are going to exit the airport on Bainbridge, then turn right on Vets, right on the current access road, and roll in that way.
But i'm shocked they haven't said more about this and confirmed anything.
Posted on 8/15/19 at 9:15 am to UPT
Its not the lack of hangers its the building sinking.
The soil isnt droping fast enough to crack the pipes its the building settling and pushing on the hangers that is cracking the pipe
The soil isnt droping fast enough to crack the pipes its the building settling and pushing on the hangers that is cracking the pipe
Posted on 8/15/19 at 9:20 am to WhiteMandingo
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Its not the lack of hangers its the building sinking.
The soil isnt droping fast enough to crack the pipes its the building settling and pushing on the hangers that is cracking the pipe
Good point. The soil simply dropping would not have caused that many breaks that quickly even with the more spread out hangers. The building would have to have moved as well.
Posted on 8/15/19 at 9:22 am to Anaximander
Why haven’t there been any issues with the runways and whatnot sinking after all these years?
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