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re: MS wants to bring back firing squads
Posted on 2/9/17 at 5:45 pm to High C
Posted on 2/9/17 at 5:45 pm to High C
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Consider war.
As a soldier or civilian?
If as a soldier you don't have a choice, you're either going kill or be killed. A little different than killing a possibly guilty and defenseless person.
As a civilian you're more likely to get killed than kill anyone.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 5:49 pm to TigerstuckinMS
I've never understood why they don't just OD them on morphine or some kind of sedative used in surgery. How did it come to be three chemicals that are apparently very difficult to administer and cause excruciating pain if done incorrectly.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 5:55 pm to RabidTiger
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I've never understood why they don't just OD them on morphine or some kind of sedative used in surgery. How did it come to be three chemicals that are apparently very difficult to administer and cause excruciating pain if done incorrectly.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 6:20 pm to blueboy
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JACKSON, Miss. — Mississippi lawmakers are advancing a proposal to add firing squad, electrocution and gas chamber as execution methods in case a court blocks the use of lethal injection drugs.
Chicago seems to be a few years ahead of them on this.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 6:35 pm to TigerstuckinMS
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Nitrogen is one of the leading causes of death and casualty (if not the leading) in chemical plants every year and you often see two or three at a time because when one guy goes down, the would-be untrained rescuer trying to save his buddy dies too because nitrogen asphyxiation comes on so quickly. Two or three good breaths of a nitrogen rich environment, and it's all over unless someone can get to you and get you to fresh air before massive brain damage begins occurring.
Happened to a relative, although IRRC it was argon, not nitrogen. Went into a vacuum furnace to inspect it, and lights out.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 6:39 pm to RabidTiger
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I've never understood why they don't just OD them on morphine or some kind of sedative used in surgery.
An intriguing method is acute hypoxia. Apparently it would be completely painless - a feeling of euphoria is induced in most folks who are tested as part of aviation or special operations training (although we don't know for absolute certain it is painful and euphoric until the very end).
Besides - lethal ODs on opiates or other such methods are by no means certain, and everyone reacts differently.
The lethal injection deal, though, is literally a bill of goods sold by big pharma to the state. Better than gassing, but not much in every case.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 6:41 pm to NYNolaguy1
Don't make it more complicated than it is. Innocent lives are lost every day in war.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 6:46 pm to blueboy
That's how I'd want to go out if I had to.
Standing by a wall, smoking a Joe, eying down the guys doing it.
Of course I'd never be a worthless scumbag piece of shite murderer or rapist who deserved to die without any semblance of honor. The trash should be shot in the head while sitting in a hole they dug with a shovel in August.
Standing by a wall, smoking a Joe, eying down the guys doing it.
Of course I'd never be a worthless scumbag piece of shite murderer or rapist who deserved to die without any semblance of honor. The trash should be shot in the head while sitting in a hole they dug with a shovel in August.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 6:46 pm to blueboy
If a man (or a woman) walks into a theater or school or any major gathering of people and starts killing people, he should be executed as soon as he is arrested, if he is still alive to be arrested.
This post was edited on 2/9/17 at 6:48 pm
Posted on 2/9/17 at 7:00 pm to mrbayoublu
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JACKSON, Miss.
Has become
Omnation, OMnation.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 7:01 pm to High C
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Don't make it more complicated than it is. Innocent lives are lost every day in war.
And do you think that's a good thing?
Posted on 2/9/17 at 7:10 pm to Hickok
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... And give him the opposite of what he chooses
life?
Posted on 2/9/17 at 7:11 pm to blueboy
Hmmmm....where do I apply to be an executioner? I'll provide my services free to the state. I'll provide my own rifle and bullets, too.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 7:15 pm to weadjust
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Electrocution is a hideous method.
I watched a documentary about the death penalty. They interviewed the guy in charge for of executions in MS. He had supervised executions using lethal injection, electric chair, and the gas chamber.
He said he would chose electrocution without a doubt. He also said execution by gas chamber was brutal and was not a quick process.
Gas chamber probably does suck. But I can't believe electrocution would be better. I've read accounts. In one, it took a few tries and the convict was crying tears of pain during. In another, the guy's head caught fire. Literally his head was on fire. It just can go wrong and even a slight shock like we've all felt is not a good feeling.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 7:28 pm to blueboy
A lot of folks saying execution is cruel, painful etc..
I remember many years ago forget what state an execution took place where the guy was electrocuted. Witnesses said he shaking and gasping for air.
This guy had kidnapped, raped and slit the throat of a 4 year old girl. I bet she was shaking and gasping for air.
When there's no dought either by video or DNA I'm all for executions. What goes around comes around.
I remember many years ago forget what state an execution took place where the guy was electrocuted. Witnesses said he shaking and gasping for air.
This guy had kidnapped, raped and slit the throat of a 4 year old girl. I bet she was shaking and gasping for air.
When there's no dought either by video or DNA I'm all for executions. What goes around comes around.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 7:41 pm to Nicky Parrish
It's not really that we care about the convicts pain. It's just a discussion about which methods are least painful and most reliable. Bc the legal challenges are usually about whether the method constitutes cruel and usual suffering.
Posted on 2/9/17 at 7:43 pm to biglego
No one wants guillotines or the gallows?
Posted on 2/9/17 at 7:46 pm to Dire Wolf
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We love our constitution here don't we
And what does the death row guy think about the constitution?
Posted on 2/9/17 at 7:47 pm to HempHead
Why not use whatever they use to put down dogs?
seems to work
seems to work
Posted on 2/9/17 at 7:49 pm to HempHead
Guillotines seem perfect to me. Can't imagine a swifter and surer method. Really, there are probably dozens of great ways to do it.
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