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re: MS wants to bring back firing squads

Posted on 2/9/17 at 5:45 pm to
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20885 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 5:45 pm to
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Consider war.


As a soldier or civilian?

If as a soldier you don't have a choice, you're either going kill or be killed. A little different than killing a possibly guilty and defenseless person.

As a civilian you're more likely to get killed than kill anyone.
Posted by RabidTiger
Member since Nov 2009
3127 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 5:49 pm to
I've never understood why they don't just OD them on morphine or some kind of sedative used in surgery. How did it come to be three chemicals that are apparently very difficult to administer and cause excruciating pain if done incorrectly.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 5:55 pm to
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I've never understood why they don't just OD them on morphine or some kind of sedative used in surgery. How did it come to be three chemicals that are apparently very difficult to administer and cause excruciating pain if done incorrectly.
Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
17134 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 6:20 pm to
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JACKSON, Miss. — Mississippi lawmakers are advancing a proposal to add firing squad, electrocution and gas chamber as execution methods in case a court blocks the use of lethal injection drugs.


Chicago seems to be a few years ahead of them on this.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98178 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 6:35 pm to
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Nitrogen is one of the leading causes of death and casualty (if not the leading) in chemical plants every year and you often see two or three at a time because when one guy goes down, the would-be untrained rescuer trying to save his buddy dies too because nitrogen asphyxiation comes on so quickly. Two or three good breaths of a nitrogen rich environment, and it's all over unless someone can get to you and get you to fresh air before massive brain damage begins occurring.


Happened to a relative, although IRRC it was argon, not nitrogen. Went into a vacuum furnace to inspect it, and lights out.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89506 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 6:39 pm to
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I've never understood why they don't just OD them on morphine or some kind of sedative used in surgery.


An intriguing method is acute hypoxia. Apparently it would be completely painless - a feeling of euphoria is induced in most folks who are tested as part of aviation or special operations training (although we don't know for absolute certain it is painful and euphoric until the very end).

Besides - lethal ODs on opiates or other such methods are by no means certain, and everyone reacts differently.

The lethal injection deal, though, is literally a bill of goods sold by big pharma to the state. Better than gassing, but not much in every case.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
53769 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 6:41 pm to
Don't make it more complicated than it is. Innocent lives are lost every day in war.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 6:46 pm to
That's how I'd want to go out if I had to.

Standing by a wall, smoking a Joe, eying down the guys doing it.

Of course I'd never be a worthless scumbag piece of shite murderer or rapist who deserved to die without any semblance of honor. The trash should be shot in the head while sitting in a hole they dug with a shovel in August.
Posted by mrbayoublu
Acadiana
Member since Jan 2004
2785 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 6:46 pm to
If a man (or a woman) walks into a theater or school or any major gathering of people and starts killing people, he should be executed as soon as he is arrested, if he is still alive to be arrested.
This post was edited on 2/9/17 at 6:48 pm
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Flux Capacitor, Fluxing
Member since Nov 2007
33185 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 7:00 pm to
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JACKSON, Miss.


Has become

Omnation, OMnation.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20885 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 7:01 pm to
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Don't make it more complicated than it is. Innocent lives are lost every day in war.


And do you think that's a good thing?
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
18799 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 7:10 pm to
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... And give him the opposite of what he chooses





life?
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
20367 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 7:11 pm to
Hmmmm....where do I apply to be an executioner? I'll provide my services free to the state. I'll provide my own rifle and bullets, too.
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76270 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 7:15 pm to
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quote:
Electrocution is a hideous method.


I watched a documentary about the death penalty. They interviewed the guy in charge for of executions in MS. He had supervised executions using lethal injection, electric chair, and the gas chamber.

He said he would chose electrocution without a doubt. He also said execution by gas chamber was brutal and was not a quick process.

Gas chamber probably does suck. But I can't believe electrocution would be better. I've read accounts. In one, it took a few tries and the convict was crying tears of pain during. In another, the guy's head caught fire. Literally his head was on fire. It just can go wrong and even a slight shock like we've all felt is not a good feeling.
Posted by Nicky Parrish
Member since Apr 2016
7098 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 7:28 pm to
A lot of folks saying execution is cruel, painful etc..
I remember many years ago forget what state an execution took place where the guy was electrocuted. Witnesses said he shaking and gasping for air.
This guy had kidnapped, raped and slit the throat of a 4 year old girl. I bet she was shaking and gasping for air.
When there's no dought either by video or DNA I'm all for executions. What goes around comes around.
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76270 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 7:41 pm to
It's not really that we care about the convicts pain. It's just a discussion about which methods are least painful and most reliable. Bc the legal challenges are usually about whether the method constitutes cruel and usual suffering.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55446 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 7:43 pm to
No one wants guillotines or the gallows?
Posted by Hickok
Htown
Member since Jan 2013
2865 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 7:46 pm to
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We love our constitution here don't we

And what does the death row guy think about the constitution?
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 7:47 pm to
Why not use whatever they use to put down dogs?

seems to work
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76270 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 7:49 pm to
Guillotines seem perfect to me. Can't imagine a swifter and surer method. Really, there are probably dozens of great ways to do it.
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