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re: Mother of Dead Woman Says Medics Told Her She Could Not Afford Ambulance

Posted on 7/31/18 at 1:39 pm to
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
34328 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 1:39 pm to
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So what are the chances this woman is completely full of shite?


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Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112944 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 1:41 pm to
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So what are the chances this woman is completely full of shite?

Well she's black, so we know what the OT's majority opinion will be on this question.
Posted by LSUWoodworker
St George "God's Country "
Member since Dec 2007
18878 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 1:42 pm to
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Well she's black, so we know what the OT's majority opinion will be on this question.



Splain it please
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112944 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 1:43 pm to
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I’m a medic and I’ve never heard of that happening. I assume the medics got refusal of care signed and documented well.
Yea, I'm confused as to why what happens seem to be murky. It should be well documented, and as you said, there should be a formed signed if they refused transport, and if they refused to sign, again that should be documented.

We should know exactly what happened here, not sure why we don't.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112944 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 1:44 pm to
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Nobody took Ms. Galloway’s vitals at the scene; responders failed to get a signed confirmation from Ms. Black that her daughter wouldn’t use the ambulance; and, in a follow-up report, medical workers indicated that they had not arrived at the scene at all that morning.
That's pretty concerning.

Were they dispatched to the scene but didn't show up? Did the family never even call 911?
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 1:46 pm to
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No, they didn't. So basically it's a he-said she-said issue.


Yikes
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112944 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 1:47 pm to
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If my kid if unconscious and foaming at the mouth, I'm driving them to the hospital with a quickness.

That's cool, if my kid was doing the same, i'd call an Ambulance because of me being his father and wanting him to live and all that.

I'd hope you're joking and you're not really that shitty of a parent.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112944 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 1:48 pm to
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mom wasnt going to pay the ambulance bill and refused the service
It's not a Taxi service, you don't have to pay up front.

You're a bit off the mark here.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112944 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 1:48 pm to
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Splain it please
That's not necessary
Posted by mikeboss550
Member since Apr 2013
10997 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 1:49 pm to
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Nobody took Ms. Galloway’s vitals at the scene; responders failed to get a signed confirmation from Ms. Black that her daughter wouldn’t use the ambulance; and, in a follow-up report, medical workers indicated that they had not arrived at the scene at all that morning.


Yea that wouldn't fly at my service, dispatch has the times and radio transmissions, so if they ate lying it's just plain stupid, as for the refusal form it should have been signed and documented, also 600 seems low for a ride for an unresponsive pt, that is ALS and soul be transported.
Posted by Sidicous
NELA
Member since Aug 2015
19296 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 1:51 pm to
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You know why I've never called an ambulance???

Because I'm not sure I can afford one.

Final out of pocket expenses for my Dad, including LifeFlight and an hour or more attempted resuscitation and therapies and such...$0.

No idea how much local/state/fed govt. paid though since it was all tied to his SSN/Medicaid/medicare/etc.. Within 24 hours his govt. records were cutoff and sealed. Mom, his spouse for 60 years, is denied access to his records with the govt..

Only bill Mom has gotten is from the Minor Emergency Clinic the day before he collapsed.


Apparently, it's only expensive if you survive. So take that into account.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
24499 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 1:51 pm to
I've ridden in an ambulance once after a car accident. They didn't say anything about payment because I was shocked when weeks later the bill showed up in the mail for $3800. I wish they would've warned me about not being able to afford it. They would have been right.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112944 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 1:54 pm to
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Yea that wouldn't fly at my service, dispatch has the times and radio transmissions, so if they ate lying it's just plain stupid, as for the refusal form it should have been signed and documented, also 600 seems low for a ride for an unresponsive pt, that is ALS and soul be transported.

Yep, this should all be easily tracked.

What we know for sure is that the medics went to the house, did not get vitals, did not get the refusal form signed, did not document anyone refused to sign said form, and also lied and indicated that they did not even arrive on the scene then later admitted they did arrive on the scene.

But oddly enough, a lot of posters are putting all of their trust in the medics on this one. Hmm, wonder why.


It's so weird to me this day in age on social media it feels like it's almost impossible for some people to just say they have no clue what happened. Everyone has to take a side.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112944 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 1:56 pm to
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I wish they would've warned me about not being able to afford it. They would have been right.
Yea, it's against EMTALA laws, but obviously for some folks it would be great to know this ahead of time.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
117158 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 1:56 pm to
quote:

Ms. Black said that the responders told her she could not afford the $600 ambulance ride to take her daughter to the hospital


Well?

Could she?

If not, they weren't treated poorly because they were black. They were treated the way they were treated because they were poor, and just happened to be black and named Black.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
70128 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 1:58 pm to
It’s not the medics job to do that

This is bullshite
Posted by REB BEER
Laffy Yet
Member since Dec 2010
18340 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 1:58 pm to
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That's cool, if my kid was doing the same, i'd call an Ambulance because of me being his father and wanting him to live and all that. I'd hope you're joking and you're not really that shitty of a parent.


I live about 3 minutes from a hospital. By the time an ambulance gets to my house, I could have him to the ER.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91871 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 1:59 pm to
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mom wasnt going to pay the ambulance bill and refused the service, daughter dies as a result of not getting help fast enough, now mom wants to blame them for what "she" did and will get a lawyer trying to get rich off of killing her own daughter by her own neglect in the form of being too cheap to let them help her with emergency life saving care on the way to the hospital


That's all possible, but the medical workers seem to have a pretty shady story too.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112944 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 2:02 pm to
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It’s not the medics job to do that

This is bullshite
Well, when you consider the medics botched all of their actual duties for this call, is it bullshite?


We don't know.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112944 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 2:03 pm to
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That's all possible, but the medical workers seem to have a pretty shady story too.

Thanks for not leaving me on the island alone.


We'll be downvoted and ridiculed into oblivion together!!!
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