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re: Most underrated ancient empire

Posted on 11/23/19 at 10:17 am to
Posted by BRgetthenet
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Posted on 11/23/19 at 10:17 am to
Aliens
Posted by Paul Allen
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Posted on 11/23/19 at 10:18 am to
Patchy delays all the way from Louisa to the base of the high rise
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
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Posted on 11/23/19 at 10:18 am to
Assyrians were the original badasses.

The fall of Nineveh would be a superb story if ever put to a movie.
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 11/23/19 at 10:29 am to
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Sumeria because it was the first.
No it wasn't.
Posted by NavyLSUAlum
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Posted on 11/23/19 at 10:43 am to
I'm partial to the Poon Tang Dynasty. They had to differentiate themselves from the older Tang Dynasty which had something to do with drinks.
Posted by Kcrad
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Posted on 11/23/19 at 10:44 am to
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Rome stull most of their culture


Nebuchadnezzar just turned in his grave.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
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Posted on 11/23/19 at 10:48 am to
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Carthage


Carthago delenda est
Posted by athenslife101
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Posted on 11/23/19 at 11:14 am to
I think Carthage is properly rated. And they were horrible people. They were doing human child sacrifice much much later than any other Mediterranean civilization and they were ramping up when they were destroyed.
Posted by STLDawg
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Posted on 11/23/19 at 11:22 am to
I’ve recently gotten into reading about the Hellenistic successor states of Alexander. My favorite is the Seleucid Empire.
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 11/23/19 at 11:23 am to
Hittites
Posted by Upperdecker
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Posted on 11/23/19 at 11:24 am to
Carthaginian War Elephants must have been incredible

LINK

I learned that the war elephants were filthy drunk when they went into battle
Posted by JawjaTigah
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Posted on 11/23/19 at 11:25 am to
I think the Incas, Aztecs and Mayans could hold their own.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 11/23/19 at 11:30 am to
Shang Dynasty
Posted by athenslife101
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Posted on 11/23/19 at 11:30 am to
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Carthaginian War Elephants must have been incredible


The species of elephant they used are extinct now. But they were smaller than Indian elephants and much Much smaller than typical African elephants
Posted by Boo Krewe
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Posted on 11/23/19 at 11:39 am to
Babylon
Maurya in India
Kmer
Posted by Boo Krewe
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Posted on 11/23/19 at 11:41 am to
Mauryan used them
Is ottoman ancient
Posted by skeeter531
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Posted on 11/23/19 at 11:44 am to
it's Sumer, not Sumeria. The people were Sumerians. They are credited with many inventions we still use.
Posted by athenslife101
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Posted on 11/23/19 at 11:48 am to
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Mauryan used them

No, they used Indian elephants

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Is ottoman ancient

No. The Ottoman Empire formed 1000 years after the end of the classical/ancient era.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 11/23/19 at 11:48 am to
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it's Sumer, not Sumeria. The people were Sumerians. They are credited with many inventions we still use.
baseball was first played by the boys of sumer
Posted by Carl Tuckerson
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Posted on 11/23/19 at 11:53 am to
Don't know if this properly qualifies as ancient, since it's right on the cusp of the feudal era, but the Gothic, Frankish, and other Germanic tribes are criminally undervalued by mainstream historians as barbarian savages when in actuality they were far more just and governed far more effectively than their "civilized" Roman equivalents. The kingdoms they built in modern Spain, Italy, France, and Germany were just as impressive militarily as any more prominently remembered ancient empires, and ultimately only disintegrated due to internal division, not the wars of the Moslem or the Roman.

For something more ancient, the Scythians are similarly undervalued. They didn't build a unified empire so much as their people just happened to end up in the ruling castes of many different ancient states. If you see stories about Egyptian mummies with red or blonde hair, or engravings and pottery featuring such light-haired, blue-eyed conquerors, that's them, and the records have them as present in places as far-flung as Egypt, Persia, Mesopotamia, and the Indus Valley, all a long way from their home in modern Ukraine and the steppes north of the Caucasus Mountains.

EDIT: Since it's somewhat topical, I'm also convinced that a city called Atlantis really existed, though it was probably just a coastal town wiped out in a very large flood or storm, not some large empire.
This post was edited on 11/23/19 at 11:55 am
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