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re: Morganza Spillway may or may not open for a 3rd time -- lack of clear info from ACoE
Posted on 6/2/19 at 10:52 pm to omegaman66
Posted on 6/2/19 at 10:52 pm to omegaman66
Not a hydrologist here but wouldnt more water diverted to the Atchafalaya just eventually lead to a river switch anyways?
Less flow to the Mississippi would allow it to drop more sediment in the stretch from the diversion to the Gulf, leading to a need for even more water to be diverted.
The Atchafalaya is obviously not setup at the moment to be the major trade route that the lower Mississippi is. So it's either invest tremendous funds and manpower in truly dredging the Mississipi or invest in modernizing the Atchafalaya route and work towards desalinization on a massive scale.
This topic is way over my head as far as it goes to a solution. So many different aspects to it all is just mind boggling.
Less flow to the Mississippi would allow it to drop more sediment in the stretch from the diversion to the Gulf, leading to a need for even more water to be diverted.
The Atchafalaya is obviously not setup at the moment to be the major trade route that the lower Mississippi is. So it's either invest tremendous funds and manpower in truly dredging the Mississipi or invest in modernizing the Atchafalaya route and work towards desalinization on a massive scale.
This topic is way over my head as far as it goes to a solution. So many different aspects to it all is just mind boggling.
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Posted on 6/2/19 at 11:03 pm to PipelineBaw
Yeah, pretty much everything that dude used to set up his argument was not correct.
Posted on 6/3/19 at 3:12 am to jimbeam
Anyone have the text of this? I couldn’t find it.
Posted on 6/3/19 at 4:48 am to Ponchy Tiger
quote:
What law would this be?
It takes an act of congress to adjust the flows. Of the total flow 30% goes down the Atchafalaya and 70 goes down the Mississippi River.
Note: This is not the same as sending 30% of the Mississippi River water down the Atchafalaya.
They do not have authority to make decisions on how much to send where.
Posted on 6/3/19 at 5:49 am to omegaman66
quote:These statements are confusing and seem to contradict each other.
f the total flow 30% goes down the Atchafalaya and 70 goes down the Mississippi River.
Note: This is not the same as sending 30% of the Mississippi River water down the Atchafalaya.
Posted on 6/3/19 at 6:40 am to Asharad
For every three gallons that go down the Atchafalaya 7 go down the Mississippi.
Some of the water in the Atchafalaya comes from the Red River. So it is 30% of the total of the two rivers. Not 30% of the flow of the Mississippi River.
Someone correct me if I am wrong! It is rare but is possible.
Some of the water in the Atchafalaya comes from the Red River. So it is 30% of the total of the two rivers. Not 30% of the flow of the Mississippi River.
Someone correct me if I am wrong! It is rare but is possible.
Posted on 6/3/19 at 8:00 am to notiger1997
quote:
It’s because of the great job they have done we won’t have major issues in Louisiana
They have done a great job, but they wouldnt be out there unless something major could happen.
Posted on 6/3/19 at 8:50 am to NYNolaguy1
Posted on 6/3/19 at 2:22 pm to TDsngumbo
Bump for 2nd delay to June 9th. ACE doesn't want to send more water into the flood way than necessary and the forecast crest has been pushed back again.
This post was edited on 6/3/19 at 6:16 pm
Posted on 6/3/19 at 2:23 pm to TDsngumbo
What if I told you the Morganza was not going to open at all this year
This post was edited on 6/3/19 at 2:26 pm
Posted on 6/3/19 at 2:38 pm to LaBR4
By Kevin Foster | June 3, 2019 at 2:18 PM CDT - Updated June 3 at 2:30 PM
MORGANZA, La. (WAFB) - The opening of the Morganza Control Structure has been postponed again until June 9.
The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers said the delay is because forecasts indicate river elevations could overtop the control structure.
The Mississippi River is predicted to reach 60 feet at the structure on June 12, 2019 instead of on June 9, 2019, which was in the previous forecast.
The Army Corps of Engineers only intends to operate the structure when needed as to not put additional water into the Atchafalaya Basin.
wafb
so wait to see if it over tops or not? genius i say......
Posted on 6/3/19 at 2:39 pm to TDsngumbo
Where are you getting June 12? ACE has June 9 on their twitter page.
Posted on 6/3/19 at 2:40 pm to Head1
It was just announced
Wonder if those levees failing in Missouri have anything to do with it being pushed back
Wonder if those levees failing in Missouri have anything to do with it being pushed back
Posted on 6/3/19 at 2:41 pm to bayou choupique
Sure are quick to open Bonnet Carre which Miss hates but they want to avoid the Morganza at all costs?
Hmm!
Hmm!
Posted on 6/3/19 at 2:50 pm to nicholastiger
quote:
Sure are quick to open Bonnet Carre which Miss hates but they want to avoid the Morganza at all costs?
Umm actually yeah. They're not hiding that fact.
Posted on 6/3/19 at 2:51 pm to LSUJuice
Well one harms Oysters and one destroys property. Its not that difficult of a decision.
Posted on 6/3/19 at 2:52 pm to LSU5508
Right
Posted on 6/3/19 at 2:59 pm to nicholastiger
Once they open that thing they cant close it until the river goes down and it wrecks a bunch of shite when it is open.
It's a big deal. Opening the bonnet carre kills some oysters.
It's a big deal. Opening the bonnet carre kills some oysters.
Posted on 6/3/19 at 3:01 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
quote:
Wonder if those levees failing in Missouri have anything to do with it being pushed back
From the calculations I've been doing, it has played a factor (Arkansas Dardanelle-breach as well)
This post was edited on 6/3/19 at 3:03 pm
Posted on 6/3/19 at 3:03 pm to LaBR4
You calculate that in common core, baw?
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