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re: Morganza Spillway may or may not open for a 3rd time -- lack of clear info from ACoE
Posted on 5/23/19 at 10:20 am to TDsngumbo
Posted on 5/23/19 at 10:20 am to TDsngumbo
quote:
Forecast calls for a 44.4’ crest in BR but it’s already at 44.2’ and there’s still 5”-6” of rain to fall up north to drain into the river. I bet this crest is over 45’.
I think thats USACE's concern, that it will top 45', and the local silting condition at Morganza could cause it to be topped if not opened early, which if topped would be bad news bears for BR and NOLA.
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Posted on 5/23/19 at 10:22 am to Ponchy Tiger
quote:
No way the feds pay to fix New Orleans again
They cut California's FEMA. They could reallocate that over here.
Posted on 5/23/19 at 10:22 am to NYNolaguy1
Why would it be bad for BR if the Morganza gets over topped? Is it because they wouldn’t be able to use it?
Posted on 5/23/19 at 10:24 am to TDsngumbo
quote:
I bet this crest is over 45’.
Maybe, but Morganza opening will keep levels down in BR and NOLA.
As we just found out this morning, the river would likely overtop the structures at Morganza instead of getting higher downstream. Or that's what I would assume would occur if we are already at risk of overtopping the west bank at morganza. So unlikely we have much rise over 45 ft, right?
Posted on 5/23/19 at 10:28 am to CarRamrod
quote:
I have forgotten more about flood control than you know.
Oh ok, well I guess that settles it
Posted on 5/23/19 at 10:30 am to CarRamrod
quote:
I have forgotten more about flood control than you know.
Army Corp of Engineers?
Posted on 5/23/19 at 10:31 am to TDsngumbo
quote:
Why would it be bad for BR if the Morganza gets over topped?
I think the implication is that the spillway would fail if overtopped (scouring, breakthrough, etc) and the river would permanently divert at this point.
Or maybe if the spillway gets overtopped they cant open the gates and relieve flow downstream.
Posted on 5/23/19 at 10:39 am to CarRamrod
quote:
I have forgotten more about flood control than you know.
I thought you were a big fat cop?
Posted on 5/23/19 at 10:40 am to WizardSleeve
What's going to be interesting in all of this is to see how the levees and structures hold up after months and months of high water putting enormous pressure on them.
Can you imagine if the Morganza fails due to scouring or a breakthrough?
Can you imagine if the Morganza fails due to scouring or a breakthrough?
Posted on 5/23/19 at 10:44 am to Placebeaux
nope. but i have consulted them all over the country.
Posted on 5/23/19 at 10:44 am to CarRamrod
So since you know so much, and guys like us know so little, could you give us a thread recap of what this means for specific areas/ communities? I seriously have no idea.
Posted on 5/23/19 at 10:45 am to tgrbaitn08
quote:i thought you were a tigerfan that masturbates alot.
I thought you were a big fat cop?
Posted on 5/23/19 at 10:46 am to CarRamrod
quote:
nope. but i have consulted them all over the country.
They have a pretty dismal track record, don’t they?
Posted on 5/23/19 at 10:46 am to CarRamrod
quote:
i thought you were a tigerfan that masturbates alot.
Aren't we all?
Posted on 5/23/19 at 10:46 am to Lsupimp
quote:i never said that. I just commented that Thib was acting a fool again.
So since you know so much, and guys like us know so little,
nah to really get the gist of all of this would take hours.
Posted on 5/23/19 at 10:49 am to CarRamrod
quote:
nah to really get the gist of all of this would take hours.
Well you have until 5pm
Posted on 5/23/19 at 10:49 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
quote:considering most of the infrastructure was designed with a 50-100yr life and most have exceeded that. Sure.
They have a pretty dismal track record, don’t they?
Posted on 5/23/19 at 10:50 am to Capt ST
quote:who will i bill for this?
Well you have until 5pm
Posted on 5/23/19 at 10:53 am to CarRamrod
Whoever you’re billing for the time you spend on here
This is essentially what you’ve said in this thread
“You’re wrong, I’m the expert, I’m not going to explain why you’re wrong”
This is essentially what you’ve said in this thread
“You’re wrong, I’m the expert, I’m not going to explain why you’re wrong”
Posted on 5/23/19 at 10:55 am to TDsngumbo
quote:
Why would it be bad for BR if the Morganza gets over topped? Is it because they wouldn’t be able to use it?
Yes, essentially. If the bays aren't open its a dam for all intents and purposes. Once it gets overtopped if the gates arent open they will stay that way for the duration of the flood event.
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