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re: Morganza Spillway may or may not open for a 3rd time -- lack of clear info from ACoE

Posted on 2/25/19 at 7:36 pm to
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 2/25/19 at 7:36 pm to
What we need is for gold to be found at the bottom of the Mississippi. Parker Snavel (sp) would have it dredged in 90 days.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
39276 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 7:38 pm to
quote:

LSU put out a study last year basically saying that more sediment is lost to coastal erosion than what is being pumped down the Miss. The reason is all of the various water control structures along the Tennessee and Ohio rivers that keep all of that silt.

If you took those down you would have a start.


Well sure.

Politically, I don't see any control structures / levees coming down anytime in our lifetimes. So, we need to work around that.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 7:41 pm to
quote:

If only there was some way we could use all that dredged material... you know... like to help build new marsh or something... Take some of that BP money / offshore royalty money, and put some people to work doing this. No, you won't get it all... but you might be able to at least keep pace. And you don't need to do the whole river... maybe a 10-20 mile stretch south of ORCS would be a start.


The USACE already does this. They partner with local sponsors and use dredged material to create wetlands and ridges under their BUDMAT program. Also, CPRA has constructed several projects using MS river sediment. The problem is transport. How in the flyin flip you gonna transport 5,000,000 Cy of sediment from ORCS or BR to Venice or Bohemia to make marsh? We hardly go further than 20, much less than 10 Miles as it is with sediment pipelines
This post was edited on 2/25/19 at 7:42 pm
Posted by Capt ST
High Plains
Member since Aug 2011
13344 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 8:06 pm to
Million dollar a mile to transport sediment via pipeline
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 2/26/19 at 8:54 am to
Anyone else having trouble accessing the BR gage website?
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
102491 posts
Posted on 2/26/19 at 10:19 am to
quote:

Anyone else having trouble accessing the BR gage website?


So it begins...
Posted by missloutiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2008
1132 posts
Posted on 2/26/19 at 10:23 am to
LINK
Lower Mississippi River Forecast
This post was edited on 2/26/19 at 10:24 am
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
102491 posts
Posted on 2/26/19 at 10:27 am to
quote:

ALL STAGE FORECASTS INCLUDE 48 HOURS OF FUTURE RAINFALL. END LMRFC


So unless it stops raining entirely, the forecast crest will keep going up.
Posted by Capt ST
High Plains
Member since Aug 2011
13344 posts
Posted on 2/26/19 at 10:44 am to
So as it stands now, miss river @ RR landing is forecasted to crest at 61'. These are the top 6 and Morganza Spillway was only used 1 out of these 5 events. Hell 73 isn't in top 10 crests. So do they really need to open it?

(1) 63.39 ft on 05/18/2011
(2) 61.61 ft on 03/24/1997
(3) 61.22 ft on 03/19/2018
(4) 60.94 ft on 05/14/1927
(5) 60.71 ft on 01/19/2016
(6) 60.70 ft on 04/24/2008
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
45713 posts
Posted on 2/26/19 at 10:54 am to
Looks like they held the forecast from yesterday. Steady.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 2/26/19 at 1:16 pm to
About sediment deposits at ORCS. The Corps did a study a few years ago.

quote:

As operated since the early 1990s, sediment diversion at the ORCC probably is less efficient than required to maintain channel stability in the Mississippi River downstream of the ORCC.


Translated: The new hydroelectric facility (opened in 90) is messing things up. We will have to change its operations if we are going to fix this.

quote:

While there is clear evidence of significant channel aggradation in the vicinity of the ORCC, the impacts of ORCC operations on regional sedimentation remain uncertain.


Translated: There is a real problem here, and we have no idea how bad it is.

quote:

Operational alternatives were analyzed that potentially could increase the long-term sediment diversion efficiency at the ORCC.


Translated: Whatever we do, it is going to take a while.

Here's the link. LINK





Posted by Ignignot
Member since Mar 2009
18823 posts
Posted on 2/26/19 at 2:11 pm to
How wet of a spring are they predicting in the midwest? Will the river have enough time to drop down b4 another pulse comes?
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
21678 posts
Posted on 2/26/19 at 2:16 pm to
quote:

Morganza Spillway was only used 1 out of these 5 events. Hell 73 isn't in top 10 crests. So do they really need to open it? 


Due to sediment buildup north of the ORCS over the years, the answer your question is unknown. No one knows the exact changes to the riverbed along that stretch of the river. Because of those changes, trying to predict whether or not Morganza will be opened based off of previous river crest heights becomes almost useless. The fact that 1973 wasn't even a top 6 crest tells you all you need to know. Every event is different which shows the flexibility in protocol for opening Morganza.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 2/26/19 at 3:24 pm to
quote:

Q=CiA


I keep mixing this up with that other thread and it’s blowing my mind.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36408 posts
Posted on 2/26/19 at 3:51 pm to
quote:


How wet of a spring are they predicting in the midwest?


Somewhere between above normal, average, and below normal over the Ohio valley.

Long term modeling isn't great, and currently all over the fricking place. It's going to be taking it week by week.

quote:

Will the river have enough time to drop down b4 another pulse comes?


The next 10 days doesn't look too bad.



On average an inch or two.



Notice how the heaviest rains follow along the white section. That's generally going to be the storm tracks. Assuming this is how it plays, it should help our cause going later in the month.

The steering earlier in the month brought storms farther north cutting from TX/Ok up toward the lakes generally. Brought a lot of moisture north in doing so. Now, it looks like it'll keep it bottled up in the south.

The other big concern is the snow melt over the Missouri. Fortunately, early March is looking to be pretty cold.



Sun angle will start the melting regardless but cold is obviously better than not. Climate models want to really warm up that way during April. Suggests the water is going to stay high in the river for quite a while. Just hope we don't get another run of heavy rain over the Ohio valley while we're at it.

Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 2/26/19 at 4:29 pm to
quote:

Looks like they held the forecast from yesterday. Steady


The big adjustments are on Wednesdays
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
28302 posts
Posted on 2/26/19 at 6:06 pm to
Posted by Capt ST
High Plains
Member since Aug 2011
13344 posts
Posted on 2/26/19 at 6:20 pm to
Where’d you pull that from?
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
45713 posts
Posted on 2/27/19 at 10:16 am to
Bump to let everyone know the forecast river stages have updated this morning and they're still the same as yesterday. No bump up or down today.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 2/27/19 at 10:31 am to
So can they just open up the hydroelectric station if needed to pull off more water?
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