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Moon Mining - why major powers are eyeing a lunar gold rush. *hint: energy

Posted on 9/8/23 at 10:55 am
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45760 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 10:55 am
I do a lot of work with NASA to overcome some of the challenges in space for electronics. In a private conversation with a now retired director while he was employed at NASA and reporting directly to Jim Bridenstine, the NASA administrator appointed by President Trump, he told me that Mars is a distraction and that the real push for the Artemis and Gateway programs is to mine the moon for Helium 3 before China stakes out claims on the moon.

He told me that a dime wafer of Helium 3 used in a small home reactor could power your entire home for 10 years. A few small grains in a "flux capacitor" could power an electric auto for more than a year. Cleanly, with no radiation, and disposal of spent fuel not a problem.

Reuters - European Space Agency/ NASA

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HELIUM-3

Helium-3 is an isotope of helium that is rare on earth, but NASA says there are estimates of a million tonnes of it on the moon.

This isotope could provide nuclear energy in a fusion reactor but since it is not radioactive it would not produce dangerous waste, according to the European Space Agency.


Mining the moon for helium-3

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One ton of helium-3 has the energy equivalent to 50,000,000 barrels of oil and is worth about $3 billion. Scientists believe there is enough helium-3 on the moon to cleanly power the Earth for tens of thousands of years, ridding our dependency on dirty and finite fossil fuels.

For the United States alone, it would only take one space shuttle’s worth of helium-3 to power the entire country for a year. If that were the same amount of oil, it wouldn’t be enough for some to power their cars for an entire year.
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Lately, the quest to get to Mars has received a whole lot of attention, but behind the scenes is an ongoing race to develop a process for mining the moon for its helium-3. China in particular has been very vocal about their intentions, planning to touch down on the moon by 2017 and have fully operational strip mines on the lunar surface by 2035.

At $3 billion/ton for an estimated resource of 1.2 million tons, the value of the moon in helium-3 alone is now so astronomical that there is no Earthly currency practical enough to represent it.
Posted by red sox fan 13
Valley Park
Member since Aug 2018
15349 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 10:57 am to
They better get to work on that. Pretty crazy that we got people on the Moon back in 1969 and then kind of just stopped.
Posted by wileyjones
Member since May 2014
2295 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 10:59 am to
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we got people on the Moon back in 1969
did we though?
Posted by rowbear1922
Lake Chuck, LA
Member since Oct 2008
15166 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 10:59 am to
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Pretty crazy that we got people on the Moon back in 1969 and then kind of just stopped.


But did we?

Eta: Damnit, wileyjones
This post was edited on 9/8/23 at 11:00 am
Posted by red sox fan 13
Valley Park
Member since Aug 2018
15349 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 11:00 am to
Y'all are hilarious
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115789 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 11:00 am to
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did we though?


Yes.
Posted by NoBoDawg
Member since Feb 2014
1565 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 11:00 am to
Yeah I call BS on all of that. You lost me at “Flux Capacitor”
This post was edited on 9/8/23 at 11:08 am
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 11:01 am to
would be a heck of a stock purchase if it were a public company
Posted by Krokodil
Member since Dec 2013
819 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 11:01 am to
So, asking for a friend, what do I...I mean he... need to invest in to get out in front of this?
Posted by SeafoodPlatter
Member since Jul 2012
664 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 11:02 am to
Sounds like he was regaling you with the plot of the TV show For All Mankind.
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
31636 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 11:04 am to
Then let’s fricking go.

We should own the moon and keep everybody else out.
Posted by chryso
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
11863 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 11:04 am to
And you wanted to put it in writing where the Chicoms can find it?
Posted by jpcajun
Member since Nov 2010
1204 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 11:07 am to
Great... let's tear the moon up.

Moon makes Earth a more livable planet by moderating our home planet's wobble on its axis, leading to a relatively stable climate. It also causes tides, creating a rhythm that has guided humans for thousands of years.

I wonder if we drill and mine the moon, how it will affect the earth.
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45760 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 11:09 am to
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So, asking for a friend, what do I...I mean he... need to invest in to get out in front of this?
If you could buy it, SpaceX and the Boring Company. But they're private.
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
38510 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 11:11 am to
Future view of the moon’s surface.

Posted by chryso
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
11863 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 11:12 am to
We just need to replace the mass we take from the moon with mass from earth.
Posted by FutureCorridor49
US 90
Member since May 2023
164 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 11:13 am to
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A few small grains in a "flux capacitor" could power an electric auto for more than a year.


That would require 1.21 gigawatts!!
Posted by MikeBRLA
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2005
16458 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 11:18 am to
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before China stakes out claims on the moon.


we claimed the moon in 1969

Posted by NotoriousFSU
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2008
10216 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 11:20 am to
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before China stakes out claims on the moon.


Them and what Space Force? We got a Space Force. What they got? Cause I’m just saying they can do all the work and just happen to get robbed on the way home, nah mean?
Posted by NotoriousFSU
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2008
10216 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 11:22 am to
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We just need to replace the mass we take from the moon with mass from earth.


One Lizzo should suffice for at least a couple hundred years.
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