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Mom who slept with teen at birthday party, cleared of crimes because she thought he was 18

Posted on 5/5/19 at 7:18 pm
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 5/5/19 at 7:18 pm


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Jurors heard Abell admitted having sex with the boy at the party in July 2016 but claimed she believed he was over 18.

Prosecutor Steven Bailey said the party was held to celebrate another teenager's birthday.

He told the jury: 'The adults had a few drinks, and the defendant had more than a few drinks.

'She told the police she had had half a bottle of vodka and half a bottle of Disaronno liqueur and some shots.


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'But what she did was to have sex with [the boy] who was then 14 in two different ways, one that night at the end of the party, and one the following morning.'

The boy told police his friend left the room and then he also tried to leave but Abell asked him: 'Aren't you going to f*** me?'

In a recorded interview played to the jury, the boy said: 'I sat back on the sofa and she got on top of me.


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'That's not what this case is about. The allegation is that she did not reasonably believe he was 16 or over.

The jury took five hours to return unanimous not guilty verdicts.



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Is this a reasonable defense?
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
52804 posts
Posted on 5/5/19 at 7:20 pm to
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who was then 14 in two different ways

Is this a dick size reference
Posted by Tunasntigers92
The Boot
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 5/5/19 at 7:24 pm to
It’s in the UK, the whole “I thought” bullsht wouldn’t fly here.
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 5/5/19 at 7:26 pm to
quote:







Under the jail
Posted by Tunasntigers92
The Boot
Member since Sep 2014
28325 posts
Posted on 5/5/19 at 7:26 pm to
British people are horrendous looking.
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
138834 posts
Posted on 5/5/19 at 7:26 pm to
quote:

Under the jail
you could bury the body
Posted by QuietTiger
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2003
26256 posts
Posted on 5/5/19 at 7:29 pm to
Drink is called a Godmother, always just told them how to pour it. Didn't like the name.
A heavy mix of vodka will cut the sweetness a bunch, just sayin'!
Posted by ZIGG
Member since Dec 2016
12044 posts
Posted on 5/5/19 at 7:29 pm to
Here a THOT, there a THOT, everywhere a THOT THOT

these females are completely out of control these days
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
66984 posts
Posted on 5/5/19 at 7:31 pm to
The first I ever learned about age "issues" with adult and the underage was in the movie One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, when Jack Nicholson's character tells the doctor about his past, "She told me she was 18, and she was very willing."
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 5/5/19 at 7:36 pm to
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Is this a reasonable defense?


Apparently in the UK, you have to know (or should know) the victims is underage.
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 5/5/19 at 7:37 pm to
Effort had to be weak to believe her

Posted by Relham10
Ridge
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 5/5/19 at 7:42 pm to
Ewww
Posted by Tulane_STEM_ALUM
Member since Apr 2019
153 posts
Posted on 5/5/19 at 7:43 pm to
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is this a reasonable defense


Not in most of the US.

I think California is only US state where you can say you thought were of age.

My buddy fricked a 14 y.o. at age 22.
She had tattoos, piercings, drank, smoked bud etc. She had said in texts she was 18.

Didn't matter. Not a defense. Cops brought him in. He had no idea why. Admitted to fricking her. Then found out she was under age.

DA was cool though and just probation. But, he's on sex offender list for life. Nothing DA could do.
This post was edited on 5/5/19 at 7:47 pm
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53590 posts
Posted on 5/5/19 at 7:44 pm to
If it is, that makes the US laws even more fricked up.

Girl can show a guy her ID as proof of being of age but it’s still his fault if it’s a fake.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
51589 posts
Posted on 5/5/19 at 7:44 pm to
No intent to rape an underage kid.
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
71179 posts
Posted on 5/5/19 at 7:47 pm to
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No intent



Posted by Porkchop Express
Penderbrook
Member since Aug 2014
3964 posts
Posted on 5/5/19 at 7:49 pm to
New American teacher defense.



Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
Member since Jun 2018
32778 posts
Posted on 5/5/19 at 8:06 pm to
she's ugly. Charge her and dump her body in the river.
Posted by SECdragonmaster
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Posted on 5/5/19 at 8:30 pm to
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he also tried to leave but Abell asked him: 'Aren't you going to f*** me?'


Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
32399 posts
Posted on 5/5/19 at 8:34 pm to
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If it is, that makes the US laws even more fricked up.

Girl can show a guy her ID as proof of being of age but it’s still his fault if it’s a fake.


Yep. There was a local story a few years ago about a couple of BRPD cops (I think, but that's really beside point) that met a girl in a bar and took her home and ran the train on her. They assumed she was over 18 because she was in the bar. Well, she used a fake ID to get in and that defense didn't fly. Both were convicted, if I remember correctly.
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