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Modern-day alchemy! Scientists turn lead into gold at the Large Hadron Collider
Posted on 5/16/25 at 9:57 pm
Posted on 5/16/25 at 9:57 pm
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For centuries, alchemists dreamed of turning lead into gold — not through magic, but by unlocking the hidden potential within metals themselves. While their methods never panned out, those of modern science finally have.
Researchers at the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) — the world's largest and highest-energy particle accelerator — have observed a real-life transmutation of lead into gold. But this transformation didn't come from direct collisions, as was previously observed. Instead, it emerged through a new mechanism involving near-miss interactions between atomic nuclei.
The LHC was built to accelerate particles to near the speed of light. The collisions of these particles allow scientists to study the fundamental building blocks of matter and explore how our universe is structured on its smallest scales.
While vital information has been gleaned from such head-on collisions, most encounters inside the collider are indirect. In these "near misses," particles pass close to one another without making contact yet generate electromagnetic fields so intense that they can trigger unexpected nuclear reactions.
The electromagnetic field emanating from a lead nucleus is particularly strong because the nucleus contains 82 protons, each carrying one elementary charge," officials with the European Organization for Nuclear Research (known by its French acronym, CERN) wrote in a statement.
"Moreover, the very high speed at which lead nuclei travel in the LHC (corresponding to 99.999993% of the speed of light) causes the electromagnetic field lines to be squashed into a thin pancake, transverse to the direction of motion, producing a short-lived pulse of photons," they added.
This pulse can trigger a process known as electromagnetic dissociation, in which a photon interacts with a nucleus, inducing internal oscillations that eject neutrons and photons. In the case of a passing lead atom, the loss of three protons through this process results in the formation of gold.
Space.com
Posted on 5/16/25 at 10:02 pm to Darth_Vader
They'll be selling that stuff at the truck stop tomorrow night.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 10:05 pm to Darth_Vader
so how does this affect the world's financial system?
Posted on 5/16/25 at 10:05 pm to auggie
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They'll be selling that stuff at the truck stop tomorrow night.
A lot of the world’s wealth is based on gold. Gold’s value comes from its scarcity. If they figure out how to make it out of lead, think about what that means.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 10:10 pm to Darth_Vader
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think about what that means.
Oh, I know what it means. I can't do a damn thing about it though, so I might as well make a joke.
I also am a guy that pans for gold sometimes.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 10:10 pm to Darth_Vader
This is crazy. They actually used the billion dollar thing to try and do this.
There has to be a damn good reason.
There has to be a damn good reason.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 10:10 pm to Darth_Vader
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"Moreover, the very high speed at which lead nuclei travel in the LHC (corresponding to 99.999993% of the speed of light) causes the electromagnetic field lines to be squashed into a thin pancake, transverse to the direction of motion, producing a short-lived pulse of photons," thflT ey added.
This sparked a question I had never contemplated. When you speed up an atom to near light speed how do you not have electrons moving higher than the speed of light as they orbit in the cloud? The second part may have the answer. I assume the atoms electron cloud gets flattened out (transverse to the direction of travel) to the point where the electrons travel in a flat essentially 2D orbit and keeps them from moving forward at higher than the speed of light.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 10:16 pm to Darth_Vader
Big deal. They proved a long time ago that the knee grows steel.
This post was edited on 5/16/25 at 10:18 pm
Posted on 5/16/25 at 10:18 pm to LSUballs
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They proved a long time ago that the knee grows steal.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 10:20 pm to Darth_Vader
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A lot of the world’s wealth is based on gold
On paper, yes. In reality, no. At this point we're so far beyond the fantastic ideas of the worldly philosophers, such as Adam Smith, that's we've reverted and the global currency is based on humans as debt
This post was edited on 5/16/25 at 10:24 pm
Posted on 5/16/25 at 10:20 pm to LSUballs
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the knee grows steel

Posted on 5/16/25 at 10:23 pm to Kafka
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so how does this affect the world's financial system?
It doesn't. They definitely burn more dollars during this process than the weight of the Gold produced is worth at current market rates.
This post was edited on 5/16/25 at 10:25 pm
Posted on 5/16/25 at 10:28 pm to Darth_Vader
Gold prices about to drop!
Midas butter fingers.
Midas butter fingers.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 10:32 pm to Darth_Vader
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A lot of the world’s wealth is based on gold.
Not true for a long time. Money now is a complete illusion. But aside from that, the world GDP is around $100 Trillion. The value of all gold owned is around $16 trillion. Very little of the world's wealth is based on gold anymore. In reality it is based on government smoke and mirrors and trust in said useful illusion.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 10:33 pm to SPAGHETTI PLATE
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It doesn't. They definitely burn more dollars during this process than the weight of the Gold produced is worth at current market rates.
This is true right now, but what if you built a collider in a place with no atmosphere and almost no gravity?
Posted on 5/16/25 at 11:28 pm to Darth_Vader
Sheldon Cooper, you crazy bastard
Posted on 5/16/25 at 11:39 pm to auggie
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This is true right now, but what if you built a collider in a place with no atmosphere and almost no gravity?
The energy required to create such conditions on Earth isn't a cheap, or even feasible endeavor.
The energy required to transport to and from an off planet site that meets these conditions would be substantial.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 11:44 pm to SPAGHETTI PLATE
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The energy required to create such conditions on Earth isn't a cheap, or even feasible endeavor.
The energy required to transport to and from an off planet site that meets these conditions would be substantial.
Yeah, but you know it's getting talked about, and not just about shiny gold, but other metals that maybe have a more industrial demand.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 11:47 pm to auggie
One foot in front of the other for humanity, very slowly. We will build one thing that tandems into another and reach scientific milestones methodically, sometimes randomly.
This post was edited on 5/17/25 at 11:04 am
Posted on 5/16/25 at 11:51 pm to Darth_Vader
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A lot of the world’s wealth is based on gold. Gold’s value comes from its scarcity. If they figure out how to make it out of lead, think about what that means.
What do you mean by this?
Most nations of the world abandoned the gold standard decades ago if that’s what you’re referring to.
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