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re: Mississippi River pilots under fire

Posted on 5/25/21 at 3:01 pm to
Posted by Adam4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 5/25/21 at 3:01 pm to
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then in reality the end-user / consumer is indirectly paying the outrageous fees.


ding ding ding

the shipping companies don't give a shite, they just raise their prices to reflect
Posted by ccomeaux
LA
Member since Jan 2010
8184 posts
Posted on 5/25/21 at 3:17 pm to
Are his initials JE ?
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 5/25/21 at 3:31 pm to
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I always thought it was wild there is a United States Supreme Court case literally allowing the nepotism in the river pilot community.


So how much nepotism you think there is in the pilot industry vs, say, the legal industry?
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 5/25/21 at 3:36 pm to
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Maybe due to what’s coming in. A lot of tankers are diverting to Mobile and Houston because they say frick those fees. That’s a lot of money not going to the states coffers



You think Mobile and Houston pilot fees are less?

Or maybe Mobile and Houston are 6 mile ventures while heading to NOLA or BR are 10x's longer and way more distinctive routes?

I mean, I get it... shippers don't like the fees. Low IQ people don't like the pay. But tell me Tampa, Mobile, Houston, etc are better "diversion" points because of the pilot fees? Blame geography.
Posted by theCrusher
Slidell
Member since Nov 2007
1575 posts
Posted on 5/25/21 at 3:53 pm to
The average Houston Harbor pilot salary is 190k a year. It’s public unlike the pilot salaries in this state.
Posted by Abraham H Parnassis
Member since Jul 2020
2642 posts
Posted on 5/25/21 at 4:08 pm to
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Are you a pilot or a retired pilot?

No one is suggesting they be "legislated out of a job".

Again, just use the same rules other states use
Nope. Couldn’t possibly care any less about the profession.

But it’s super soy to get pissy at someone who’s killing it because you can’t do it. Maybe not “you”, per se - but “you” being those people whining about it.

And the OP literally talked about pushing legislation. Sounds like the typical leftist approach - dump law and government onto a problem by the truckload.

It won’t actually fix anything, but let’s wreck it for the guy who’s doing better than me.
Posted by Abraham H Parnassis
Member since Jul 2020
2642 posts
Posted on 5/25/21 at 4:11 pm to
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How the hell did you get



From


This?
Because crying about one man’s career is fricking lame. Trying to pile excuses on top of it is about as pussy as it gets.

A handful of people are making way more than you. BFD. Get over it.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
53992 posts
Posted on 5/25/21 at 4:13 pm to
Wait until the diversity hires, you talk about going to be a cluster on that river
Posted by Abraham H Parnassis
Member since Jul 2020
2642 posts
Posted on 5/25/21 at 4:18 pm to
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Wait until the diversity hires, you talk about going to be a cluster on that river
Perhaps.

Still, no reason for folks to get all whiny because these guys are stacking paper.

Lots of things on this planet aren’t fair. This is one of them. People need to wipe the sand out of their pussies and worry about their own shite.
Posted by Old Money
LSU
Member since Sep 2012
41305 posts
Posted on 5/25/21 at 4:19 pm to
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Mad because someone has it better than you? Better legislate them right out of a job!

It's the leftist's way.


Nepotism is the leftist way. The only people that make it up the party, are the well connected. A capitalist wouldn't think like you do.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61276 posts
Posted on 5/25/21 at 4:20 pm to
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Abraham H Parnassis


Something tells me you either don't have reading comprehension skills or you are just another member of the river pilot mafia. Either way, screw off.
Posted by Abraham H Parnassis
Member since Jul 2020
2642 posts
Posted on 5/25/21 at 4:26 pm to
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Nepotism is the leftist way. The only people that make it up the party, are the well connected. A capitalist wouldn't think like you do.
I know two pilots, and neither have family that are pilots.

I understand that’s anecdotal and a very small sample size, but these are the facts.

Now, perhaps they know someone who knows someone who knows someone. Guess where else that happens? In the private and public sector in this and every other country. Why aren’t you beating that drum?
Posted by LeClerc
USVI
Member since Oct 2012
2841 posts
Posted on 5/25/21 at 4:27 pm to
You are making assumptions not in evidence.
Posted by Abraham H Parnassis
Member since Jul 2020
2642 posts
Posted on 5/25/21 at 4:28 pm to
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Something tells me you either don't have reading comprehension skills or you are just another member of the river pilot mafia. Either way, screw off.
Something tells me that you’re naive enough to think that “who you know” applies only to these guys.

Why do you think this is the only field where this happens?
Posted by Abraham H Parnassis
Member since Jul 2020
2642 posts
Posted on 5/25/21 at 4:29 pm to
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You are making assumptions not in evidence.
Help me understand.

Help me understand why a wink and a nod in this business is any different from any other business place.
Posted by Hermit Crab
Under the Sea
Member since Nov 2008
7388 posts
Posted on 5/25/21 at 4:31 pm to
I think nepotism is only part of what they are arguing is wrong with the pilots. The main issue is the governance by a board made up of the pilots with no outsiders.
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22628 posts
Posted on 5/25/21 at 4:32 pm to
Incestuous hiring practices are condoned.
Posted by Abraham H Parnassis
Member since Jul 2020
2642 posts
Posted on 5/25/21 at 4:34 pm to
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I think nepotism is only part of what they are arguing is wrong with the pilots. The main issue is the governance by a board made up of the pilots with no outsiders.
What about the board of any number of major businesses? Do they look after their own interests, or do they invite a bunch of schlubs from the street to make decisions on critical matters?
Posted by LeClerc
USVI
Member since Oct 2012
2841 posts
Posted on 5/25/21 at 4:35 pm to
Just because it happens elsewhere doesn't mean it should happen here. And calling people soy or pussies is just stupid and not helpful to your argument.
This post was edited on 5/25/21 at 4:36 pm
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22628 posts
Posted on 5/25/21 at 4:36 pm to
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What about the board of any number of major businesses? Do they look after their own interests, or do they invite a bunch of schlubs from the street to make decisions on critical matters?

Are the best pilots behind the wheel? How do you know?
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