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re: Mississippi gov. signs law allowing service denial to gays

Posted on 4/5/16 at 3:12 pm to
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58271 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 3:12 pm to
Eventually the SC will over rule this, but some politicians get to pound their chest and look good for the bible thumpers in the state
Posted by TheDeathValley
New Orleans, LA
Member since Sep 2010
17212 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 3:13 pm to
It is a bit obnoxious.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57472 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 3:14 pm to
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I agree, which is why the bill is unnecessary. A private business owner should be able to deny service to whoever they want for whatever reason they want. Mississippi shouldn't have to pass a law to ensure this.
i agree with this. Which is why i hate that cities can mandate private business from allowing legal acts like smoking.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22165 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 3:16 pm to
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But the opposite isn't true


Arguably, it is, it just isn't written into the law.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83630 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 3:17 pm to
the main issue with this bill is how it protects state employees

that is bullshite and unconstitutional

private business should be able to discriminate all they want, but not governments
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67593 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 3:18 pm to
how can they tell? sure the flamboyant gays stand out but they have some that blend in
Posted by dpd901
South Louisiana
Member since Apr 2011
7525 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 3:18 pm to
if I were a whacko Christian who believed Jesus would want me to hate gays (which I'm not), there are simple solutions to this "problem". Just simply post a sign that reads:

"We are a Christian Business that would PREFER to not to serve same sex weddings. As we are required to by law; however, we will donate all proceeds from these functions to the Family Research Council so they can continue to fight for traditional marriage in government".

Again, I don't think this way and would proudly serve same sex couples if I were a business owner, but just saying there are ways around the law for those determined not to.
Posted by mjax57
Vinings, GA
Member since Mar 2012
3170 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 3:20 pm to
MS could care less, not like they are some hub for business. While I might not agree, seems like they are fitting the stereotype of being behind in the times.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22165 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 3:20 pm to
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"We are a Christian Business that would PREFER to not to serve same sex weddings. As we are required to by law; however, we will donate all proceeds from these functions to the Family Research Council so they can continue to fight for traditional marriage in government".


Do you want a protest in front of your business, because that is how you get a protest in front of your business.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22165 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 3:23 pm to
quote:

the main issue with this bill is how it protects state employees that is bullshite and unconstitutional


I think it just allows the state employee from opting out of performing their function. This seems to try to handle the clerk of court situation we saw in Kentucky. I agree with you though, if you don't want to issue marriage licenses to gay couples, don't work in the clerk of courts office. But, at the same time, you couldn't really say that about the clerk in Kentucky given the fact that gay marriage was illegal when she took the job.
Posted by DoUrden
UnderDark
Member since Oct 2011
25965 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 3:23 pm to
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Do you want a protest in front of your business, because that is how you get a protest in front of your business.


Chances are it will increase business from one mindset and decrease business from the other, given the location that might not be detrimental.

Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67593 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 3:24 pm to
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that is how you get a protest in front of your business.


instead of just finding a venue that will accept them
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 3:24 pm to
North Carolina just lost huge money from PayPal by enacting a similar law.

PayPal Cancels Plans for Global Ops Center in NC Due to Law
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 3:24 pm to
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This post was edited on 4/5/16 at 3:25 pm
Posted by parrotdr
Cesspool of Rationalization
Member since Oct 2003
7520 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 3:25 pm to
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Private businesses should be able to discriminate for whatever reason they choose Singling out specific groups is wrong though It should be all or nothing


So...do they start screening customers who are divorced...or have cheated on their spouses...or have cheated on their taxes...or have stolen something...or have coveted their neighbor's goods...or have taken the name of the Lord in vain...etc., etc., etc.

Funny how "Christians" are singling out this one "sin", or behavior, to discriminate against. No problem selling to a murderer, I guess (long as he used a gun! ;) )

as someone said, do it ALL---BE A MAN! Or a woman, or a transgender...

Crap, it's too much, I quit.
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
136850 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 3:26 pm to
As soon as the casinos threaten to close shop over this issue, the bill will be repealed with the quickness.
Posted by mjax57
Vinings, GA
Member since Mar 2012
3170 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 3:26 pm to
Yeah, Georgia wasn't going to be stupid lol. They realized the loss that would occur from the economic impact just isn't worth it.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83630 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 3:26 pm to
quote:

I think it just allows the state employee from opting out of performing their function


which should get them fricking fired, but now this bills protects them
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 3:27 pm to
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Changing marriage laws? Totally agree.


Which rights of yours were changed or harmed by this?

Posted by Bdog9090
Jackson, MS.
Member since Mar 2010
99 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 3:27 pm to
From Parts B and C of section 3:

quote:

(b) Makes any employment-related decision including, but not limited to, the decision whether or not to hire, terminate or discipline an individual whose conduct or religious beliefs are inconsistent with those of the religious organization, based upon or in a manner consistent with a sincerely held religious belief or moral conviction described in Section 2 of this act; or

(c) Makes any decision concerning the sale, rental, occupancy of, or terms and conditions of occupying a dwelling or other housing under its control, based upon or in a manner consistent with a sincerely held religious belief or moral conviction described in Section 2 of this act.


So you can fire or evict someone for being gay now. This terrible fricking law will be shot down in about five minutes, and more than likely they will make sexual orientation a protected class, just like sex or age.
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