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Posted on 6/27/24 at 9:31 am
Posted by Chemcorp158
Sadly not the Rocky Mountains
Member since Oct 2017
232 posts
Posted on 6/27/24 at 9:31 am
I’m considering getting a mini split for my upstairs bonus room but not sure about the install. I know they come pre loaded with refrigerant and have no leak tube connections, but can the tube be extended without loss or if loss is inevitable, can they easily be charged? Just starting to research so they might even be equipped with enough to reach my ground for the outside unit. Also, if y’all have done something similar how did you like it?
Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
6763 posts
Posted on 6/27/24 at 9:35 am to
Firstly, move to home and garden board.

Secondly, I just installed one and did a ton of research. My dad and i installed a 24k pioneer. The unit shipped to my door was about $1750..
Add about $50 in tools and another $150 for the electrical materials and this thing is coming in right at $2k.

On the units, some (mr cool) come with pre-charged lines. Some come with pre charged outdoor units and empty lines that can be custom cut to length. I opted for the empty line set because i wanted to customize the length and not have several loops outside of my house behind the unit.

The pre-charged outdoor units have a certain amount of refrigerant for x feet of lines (maybe 25'). More than that and you have to add refrigerant (an ac guy would have to do this).

how long of a line set are you thinking you need?


This post was edited on 6/27/24 at 11:11 am
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
7928 posts
Posted on 6/27/24 at 9:37 am to
There is a recent thread on this here:

Tigerdroppings

I wouldn’t DIY unless you really know what you are doing and/or do a lot of research and get the proper tools/test gear.
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
14735 posts
Posted on 6/27/24 at 9:38 am to
Looking at this now.

Decided if I go that route to get one empywithout the quick connect fittings and having and AC guy come out when done and vacuum and sweat the connections and then charge the system.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
49903 posts
Posted on 6/27/24 at 9:40 am to
I put a mini split AC and heat pump in my garage and it was life changing.
Posted by Chemcorp158
Sadly not the Rocky Mountains
Member since Oct 2017
232 posts
Posted on 6/27/24 at 9:43 am to
quote:

how long of a line set are you thinking you need?


Probably close to 50’.
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
29797 posts
Posted on 6/27/24 at 9:44 am to
A/C guy I know has nothing but mini splits in his house.
Posted by Trauma14
Member since Aug 2010
6304 posts
Posted on 6/27/24 at 9:45 am to
quote:

I put a mini split AC and heat pump in my garage and it was life changing.


I'm buying a house and the home builder was from Minnesota and did an excellent job insulating the garages. My first act when I move in is to add a mini split in the single car garage! I can't wait.
Posted by RoyalAir
Detroit
Member since Dec 2012
6814 posts
Posted on 6/27/24 at 9:45 am to
I would find an AC guy first. A lot of companies don't want to work on them unless they sell and install it, too.

Found this out the hard way recently
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
132827 posts
Posted on 6/27/24 at 9:46 am to
quote:

I’m considering getting a mini split for my upstairs bonus room but not sure about the install. I know they come pre loaded with refrigerant and have no leak tube connections, but can the tube be extended without loss or if loss is inevitable, can they easily be charged? Just starting to research so they might even be equipped with enough to reach my ground for the outside unit.


I put one in my garage and love it. At first I thought I was going to DIY it but after researching I said f' it and I just called my A/C man. I definitely overpaid.
Posted by Chemcorp158
Sadly not the Rocky Mountains
Member since Oct 2017
232 posts
Posted on 6/27/24 at 9:48 am to
quote:

I wouldn’t DIY unless you really know what you are doing and/or do a lot of research and get the proper tools/test gear.
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Still debating this. I’m pretty handy and do most of this type of work for my day job, IE maintenance for a plant. I probably like the idea of putting the liability on someone else when it comes to holes in my wall though.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
130843 posts
Posted on 6/27/24 at 9:49 am to
We have two mini-splits and both are 1.5 ton units (18,000 BTUs).

One is in our upstairs media/game room and one is our MASTER bedroom.

I can't answer your technical installation questions because we had Baton Rouge Heating and Air Conditioning install both of them.

But I can tell you I wish we had gotten them 20 years ago instead of 10 years ago.

We love them.
Posted by Chemcorp158
Sadly not the Rocky Mountains
Member since Oct 2017
232 posts
Posted on 6/27/24 at 9:50 am to
quote:

I definitely overpaid



This is my fear.
Posted by kjp811
Denver, CO
Member since Apr 2017
964 posts
Posted on 6/27/24 at 9:51 am to
quote:


I’m considering getting a mini split for my upstairs bonus room but not sure about the install. I know they come pre loaded with refrigerant and have no leak tube connections, but can the tube be extended without loss or if loss is inevitable, can they easily be charged? Just starting to research so they might even be equipped with enough to reach my ground for the outside unit. Also, if y’all have done something similar how did you like it?


We have a mini-split system for the 1st floor of the house. I had to recharge the system after the first year but that was do to a bad install. It's a dual zone with a flush mount cartridge mounting in the ceiling which I guess was a tougher install than these guys were used to.

Even with those issues. We love it. Turn my house from 1 zone upstairs the bled cold air down to the first floor, to a 3 zone house which is great. My unit is capable of having 4 zones.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
132827 posts
Posted on 6/27/24 at 9:58 am to
quote:

This is my fear.


I could have DIY'd but the more technical aspects were the points that made me decide to just hire a professional. The technical aspects included tying directly into the breaker box and potentially having to buy a vacuum pump and A/C valve setup if any freon was lost during installation. I just let the pros do it. They have all the tools experience. I do feel like I overpaid by a lot though, almost to an embarrassing level.
Posted by PureBlood
The Motherland
Member since Oct 2021
4839 posts
Posted on 6/27/24 at 10:00 am to
quote:

I wouldn’t DIY unless you really know what you are doing and/or do a lot of research and get the proper tools/test gear.



Took me less than 3 hours to install one after having never done it. Got all the tools off of Amazon for less than $100. It isn't hard if you can watch Youtube and retain information. Hardest part is laying it out and not crimping the line set.

OP, dont get the pre-charged lines versions... you'll have alot left over if you're only going a few feet and will attract bugs/wasps.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
11290 posts
Posted on 6/27/24 at 10:00 am to
The DIY units are way over priced. Buy a non-diy unit, install it, find a housing development under construction and offer one of the HVAC techs some cash and they will get it up and running for way less than the DIY units cost.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
130843 posts
Posted on 6/27/24 at 10:03 am to
quote:

I do feel like I overpaid by a lot though,
Mine cost $6,400 (for two units) including installation by BR H&A/C.

I also needed a new breaker box to put each of them on 240V dedicated circuits. The cost included the electrical work.

The cost covered a one-year warranty, parts and labor.

That was about 10 years ago.

What did yours cost?
Posted by Ten Bears
Florida
Member since Oct 2018
4207 posts
Posted on 6/27/24 at 10:04 am to
Pro-tip...

Put one in your garage.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
34263 posts
Posted on 6/27/24 at 10:05 am to
quote:

A/C guy I know has nothing but mini splits in his house.


Then I'd find a new AC guy.

Mini-splits are fine in certain applications, but whole-house mini-splits are ridiculous, IMO.
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