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re: Millennials will spend 45% of income on rent before age 30

Posted on 3/28/18 at 9:06 am to
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 3/28/18 at 9:06 am to
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People's expectations need to real


Are you familiar with the terms inflation and real dollars?

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Millennials that want to waste rent money on high priced locations deserve to suffer in the long run for their selfish choices.



How is deciding how you want to spend your own money selfish in any way?
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
48737 posts
Posted on 3/28/18 at 9:08 am to
You hear from a lot of millennials that they don't want a home cause they don't want to be tied down. Well you still have to live somewhere and they obviously just arne't getting the concept of equity.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 3/28/18 at 9:09 am to
How dare you spend your own money the way you want to.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53525 posts
Posted on 3/28/18 at 9:09 am to
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You have to admit that it's pretty extreme commute.

That probably varies by area but I'm sure there are plenty of people on here that commute to Houston from The Woodlands (30+ miles in some cases) or Katy or some similar suburb.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
41056 posts
Posted on 3/28/18 at 9:09 am to
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AbitaFan08



Yep. How many of those people that buy that house in their mid 20's move within 5-7 years? Probably most of them, so they just start their mortgage over again. The housing market is pretty crap right now. Interest rates will and are starting to go back up which will drop home prices. Buying a house for the sake of buying a house isn't a "better" move. If you can find the right house, go for it. Otherwise, nothing wrong renting until the market is in a better position for a buyer.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 3/28/18 at 9:10 am to
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You hear from a lot of millennials that they don't want a home cause they don't want to be tied down. Well you still have to live somewhere and they obviously just arne't getting the concept of equity.


Yes. That's it. They don't understand the concept of equity. You nailed it.
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 3/28/18 at 9:11 am to
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Yeah, I don't honestly understand why this is such a big deal.

Your twenties is the time of your life where (most) people don't need a home because they don't have families and aren't married. Given the option of a house outside the city in a quiet neighborhood primarily comprised of families and older people, or an apartment in the city in the middle of everything, why is it so surprising that they are choosing the latter? Seems like a no brainer to me.

It's also a time in your career where you're low on the totem pole and have to work hard to get ahead. So paying rent and living in a smaller apartment closer to your office is a good thing. Of course, I realize everyone here will just point to the "fact" that millennials don't actually work.

It's amazing how much people on this board care about what millennials do with their money.

Well said.

If you are single in your twenties I don't get the rush in buying a house either. Especially if you don't see yourself staying in that area for a long period of time. I got into a similar discussion with a co-worker that believes I should move to the Denham Springs area and by a fixer-upper in that area. I told him that I don't intend on staying in Baton Rouge deep into my 30's and that Denham Springs isn't the type of place I want to live.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
78341 posts
Posted on 3/28/18 at 9:12 am to
I would buy in Denham due to their increasing property values and the higher they will be as more and more people leave EBR Parish.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 3/28/18 at 9:13 am to
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You hear from a lot of millennials that they don't want a home cause they don't want to be tied down. Well you still have to live somewhere and they obviously just arne't getting the concept of equity.



Let's say I buy a house in my 20s. I have closing costs and realtor fees and any other expenses that come with buying the house. 2 years later I get job offer and have to move. To sell the house, I have those same fees. If my house has appreciated, let's say 5%, there is a good chance I've lost money. I gave little equity in the house in that amount of time and I've had to pay cash expenses twice. If the appreciation amount doesn't exceeded those fees then I've lost money even though the asset has appreciated.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
41056 posts
Posted on 3/28/18 at 9:13 am to
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JBeam


Yep. If you are buying a house and still constantly moving, you are just owning with debt. You just keep resetting your mortgage.
Posted by Winston Cup
Dallas Cowboys Fan
Member since May 2016
66908 posts
Posted on 3/28/18 at 9:14 am to
it is incredible that they can spend so much on rent and student loans and still average $100k in savings

Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53525 posts
Posted on 3/28/18 at 9:15 am to
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If you are single in your twenties I don't get the rush in buying a house either. Especially if you don't see yourself staying in that area for a long period of time. I got into a similar discussion with a co-worker that believes I should move to the Denham Springs area and by a fixer-upper in that area. I told him that I don't intend on staying in Baton Rouge deep into my 30's and that Denham Springs isn't the type of place I want to live.

I wouldn't buy a house if you don't plan on staying in the area for long.
Posted by Blob Fish
Member since Mar 2016
3091 posts
Posted on 3/28/18 at 9:15 am to
From ages 26-30 I’ve spent $1100 per month on rent to live downtown within walking distance of work.

Single life has been great, and let’s be real - any savings would’ve been spent at the bars anyway. Anything breaks, I just call maintenance. No yard work.

I can’t imagine being a single dude buying a house. That shite’s for ugly single women with 3 dogs.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
41056 posts
Posted on 3/28/18 at 9:15 am to
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Let's say I buy a house in my 20s. I have closing costs and realtor fees and any other expenses that come with buying the house. 2 years later I get job offer and have to move. To sell the house, I have those same fees. If my house has appreciated, let's say 5%, there is a good chance I've lost money. I gave little equity in the house in that amount of time and I've had to pay cash expenses twice. If the appreciation amount doesn't exceeded those fees then I've lost money even though the asset has appreciated.


Bingo. This is not uncommon. I know every generation has had work cause people to re-locate, but it is probably most common now.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 3/28/18 at 9:16 am to
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it is incredible that they can spend so much on rent and student loans and still average $100k in savings



I always love the picking and choosing that goes on when people bash millennials.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27902 posts
Posted on 3/28/18 at 9:21 am to
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I always love the picking and choosing that goes on when people bash millennials.


It really is funny.

"These idiot millennials are spending a fortune on rent because they're too spoiled and selfish to buy a house outside the city. Just drive the hour each way into work like the rest of us people who have two kids and are in our forties!"

"These idiot millennials are going to colleges they can't afford because they're too good for a lesser school. If you can't pay for Harvard in cash, go to a damned community college!"
Posted by CXSteve
Member since Oct 2012
891 posts
Posted on 3/28/18 at 9:21 am to
Millennials should do like most O-Ters do and buy a nice trailer and spend the rest of their money on a big truck.
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 3/28/18 at 9:23 am to
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I wouldn't buy a house if you don't plan on staying in the area for long.

Which I think a number of millennials fall into the category that I'm currently in (Not married, little to no debt and in an area, they will likely move away from in 2-3 yrs).

Rushing into homeownership isn't a wise situation. But it seems like the older generations (some not all) are deadset on bashing us for not doing what they decided to do.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
41056 posts
Posted on 3/28/18 at 9:24 am to
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"These idiot millennials are spending a fortune on rent because they're too spoiled and selfish to buy a house outside the city. Just drive the hour each way into work like the rest of us people who have two kids and are in our forties!"

"These idiot millennials are going to colleges they can't afford because they're too good for a lesser school. If you can't pay for Harvard in cash, go to a damned community college!"





The college one is a legitimate complaint (though it was millennial's parents that pushed the importance of college). Millennials are spending way too much on colleges and getting pretty worthless degrees. I get that complaint.


This renting an apartment vs house is just silly.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37853 posts
Posted on 3/28/18 at 9:25 am to
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I'm sure there are plenty of people on here that commute to Houston from The Woodlands (30+ miles in some cases)



I commute 35miles every day. Cost about $150/mo + ~2hrs/day to commute


I'd assign a ridiculous value to get back those 2hrs/day
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