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re: Millennials are struggling to live alone and enter adulthood, U.S. census data shows
Posted on 4/21/17 at 9:51 am to IdahoTiger
Posted on 4/21/17 at 9:51 am to IdahoTiger
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Most millineals are not going through life oblivious. Sorry us thinking for ourselves bothers you, but that's not our problem
The ironic part of your post is it only proves my point. You react to any constructive criticism negatively and refuse to learn from it. This is born out of the fact you've fooled yourself into thinking you've already got everything figured out and there's no need to listen to anyone, especially someone who's older and more experienced at life than you. The worse sort of fool is the one who doesn't realize he's a fool. Good luck, kid. You're gonna need it.
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Posted on 4/21/17 at 9:55 am to GregFocker
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but it's definitely not like the 70s where you walked out of high school with a 40k a year job.
Say what? The guys I knew that got those jobs went to work in a stell mill. That's back breaking work. The ones that were lucky enough to get those jobs got them because they were connected (family or friends already in the mill).
Then the steel mills started to shut down because Japanese steel was cheaper and automobiles weren't made in the numbers in the US that they were before because of imports and those jobs went away.
But it was so easy back then and all you needed was a high school degree to make $40k a year. Yeah, that's bullshite.
Then add in the fact that mortgage rates were at 19% and we had double digit inflation. But it sure was peachy and easy back then.
Every generation has their challenges. Millennials, like every generation before them will rise to the challenge and then their kids will bitch about how easy their parents had it.
This post was edited on 4/21/17 at 9:58 am
Posted on 4/21/17 at 9:59 am to GreatLakesTiger24
The most useless generation since we settled the free world
Posted on 4/21/17 at 9:59 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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This post was edited on 4/8/19 at 11:21 pm
Posted on 4/21/17 at 9:59 am to GregFocker
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but it's definitely not like the 70s/80s where you walked out of high school with a 40k a year job.
What?
Posted on 4/21/17 at 10:01 am to GreatLakesTiger24
Middle/upper class millennials were by and large convinced by their parents they should graduate into office jobs.
In the meantime, Mexican immigrants took over the trades and service jobs that can't be shipped overseas or robotocized. Just using Texas as an example.
If you're young and looking for a gauranteed career with good pay, be a carpenter or plumber.
In the meantime, Mexican immigrants took over the trades and service jobs that can't be shipped overseas or robotocized. Just using Texas as an example.
If you're young and looking for a gauranteed career with good pay, be a carpenter or plumber.
Posted on 4/21/17 at 10:01 am to Junky
I make less than $30k, but I'm only working 20-30hrs/wk and going to school. I don't need more money because all of my shite is paid for. I'd rather have reduced stress so I can focus on school.
A lot of the millennials I work with DGAF about making more money as long as they have enough to live comfortably. More money isn't seen as a benefit or accomplishment to them. Free time and overall happiness is what's important. In fact, we got offered more than double our hourly wage recently to work weekends, and maybe 1/4 of them signed up to do it
A lot of the millennials I work with DGAF about making more money as long as they have enough to live comfortably. More money isn't seen as a benefit or accomplishment to them. Free time and overall happiness is what's important. In fact, we got offered more than double our hourly wage recently to work weekends, and maybe 1/4 of them signed up to do it
Posted on 4/21/17 at 10:05 am to GregFocker
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but it's definitely not like the 70s/80s where you walked out of high school with a 40k a year job.
My first civilian job in the early 90s started out at $5.50 an hour. I was making barely over $12,000 a year. It was a "get your foot in the door" entery level position in a warehouse. I busted my arse, paid my dues, now I'm still at the same company managing product Support for half the state.
That's the problem with your generation. You want to cross the finish line without having to run the race. The words "entry level position" are like a foreign language to you. You think the rules everyone before live by don't apply because you think you're special and the world owes you a living. Well, sorry Buttercup. I hate to burst your bubble but the world doesn't owe you jack shite and there's not a damn thing special about you. Want to get ahead and live a good life? Well, that takes busting your arse and that means when you're young you start at the bottom and work your way up.
Posted on 4/21/17 at 10:07 am to Darth_Vader
Read the entirety of my post. I worked entry level after getting out of the military, and going to school first. I worked on stricltly commission selling door-to-door alarms during the Winter in Maryland. That means absolutely no income unless I created accounts by knocking on doors for 8 hours a day... sometimes longer. I continuously applied to other jobs, and finally was able to move up into better positions. How's that for "paying my dues"?
Maybe if you put those old man glasses on and took the time to read, you wouldn't be so bitter.
Maybe if you put those old man glasses on and took the time to read, you wouldn't be so bitter.
This post was edited on 4/21/17 at 10:12 am
Posted on 4/21/17 at 10:11 am to Darth_Vader
No, we want to be able to line up for the race after training for four or five years straight. Instead, we are forced to work at the check-in booth
Entry-level is entry-level. You know how when you ENTER a building? That doesn't mean you've been standing in the building for 3-5 years
IDGAF what you write, you're still gonna lose this argument
Entry-level is entry-level. You know how when you ENTER a building? That doesn't mean you've been standing in the building for 3-5 years
IDGAF what you write, you're still gonna lose this argument
This post was edited on 4/21/17 at 10:16 am
Posted on 4/21/17 at 10:15 am to Darth_Vader
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You react to any constructive criticism negatively
You never provide anything "constructive" in these threads.
Posted on 4/21/17 at 10:16 am to GregFocker
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Read the entirety of my post. I worked entry level after getting out of the military, and going to school first. I worked on commission selling door-to-door alarms during the Winter in Maryland. I continuously applied to other jobs, and finally was able to move up into better positions. How's that for "paying my dues"?
You think this makes you special in any way? Need me to give you an "atta boy" for doing what the rest of us just call life?
The whole point of my post was to refute your absurd notion that people came out of high school in the 70/80s and somehow had it easier than you. Your post was whining how you had it harder than those older than you because you thought they all had $40,000 job waiting on them the Monday following High School graduation and you didn't.
You're the epitome of your generation. You think all your problems come from generations before and somehow you've got it harder then they did and we "just don't understand". Suck it up and stop bitching.
Posted on 4/21/17 at 10:26 am to Darth_Vader
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The ironic part of your post is it only proves my point. You react to any constructive criticism negatively and refuse to learn from it. This is born out of the fact you've fooled yourself into thinking you've already got everything figured out and there's no need to listen to anyone, especially someone who's older and more experienced at life than you. The worse sort of fool is the one who doesn't realize he's a fool. Good luck, kid. You're gonna need it.
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Posted on 4/21/17 at 10:28 am to Darth_Vader
quote:From reading his post, he just wants a job he can start and support a family on. You know....build a life. For not having those available, it is your generation's fault. They were readily available to you because your parents were better than you. And look what has happened now. You ran those companies into the ground because your parents were better than you.
You think this makes you special in any way? Need me to give you an "atta boy" for doing what the rest of us just call life?
And you wanna jump down his throat because he hasn't "paid his dues". GFY hippie. You've had everything handed to you economically. Don't take maybe 10% of a population and apply it to everyone.
Posted on 4/21/17 at 10:32 am to Darth_Vader
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it only reenforces the perception Millennials are very narcasistic and completely self absorbed. Fair or not, this label has been put on Millennials and to be honest, they've done little to dispel it.
Except that if these same millennials take on the commitment earlier than is prudent or justout of societal obligation and then struggle, people like you would bash the demographic for that, too.
Can't win.
Posted on 4/21/17 at 10:48 am to TbirdSpur2010
We even had a damn thread of people looking for jobs on the OB (that got whacked). I mean....millennials would like to work. They go to school to get jobs and live on their own, not in their parent's house like ghost Darth would have you believe
Posted on 4/21/17 at 10:49 am to DollaChoppa
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You know, ive kinda been considering quitting my job and moving in with my parents. I guess the idea of it just appeals to my generation. Its not my fault, its society's
I can only imagine my dad's face if I asked him to move in with him.
The laughter would be so hysterical he might actually have a heart attack.
Posted on 4/21/17 at 10:51 am to Hammertime
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And you wanna jump down his throat because he hasn't "paid his dues". GFY hippie. You've had everything handed to you economically. Don't take maybe 10% of a population and apply it to everyone
Had everything handed to me? Dude, I've been in my own since I was 14. I spent the majority of my senior year of high school living in an abandoned trailer without electricity, heat, or running water. When I came home from the army I took a job working like a mule for mine and a half hours a day for $5.50 an hour.
And guess what, I'm not special. The consequences that placed me where I was wasn't because of what the Baby Boomers did before me. In fact, it didn't matter who's fault it was. It was life. I could either accept it and drive on or I could sit in that abandoned trailer feeling sorry for myself and bitching how others had been "handed everything economically". This world has never handed me one damn thing nor have I expected it to.
Posted on 4/21/17 at 10:58 am to Darth_Vader
I was very close to editing because of your special circumstances, but the generalization applies as a whole, so I kept it snowflake.
I'm a millennial who started working at 14 for something like $4.75/hr 5am-3pm, so I'm an outlier also
I'm a millennial who started working at 14 for something like $4.75/hr 5am-3pm, so I'm an outlier also
This post was edited on 4/21/17 at 11:00 am
Posted on 4/21/17 at 11:05 am to Darth_Vader
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Had everything handed to me? Dude, I've been in my own since I was 14. I spent the majority of my senior year of high school living in an abandoned trailer without electricity, heat, or running water. When I came home from the army I took a job working like a mule for mine and a half hours a day for $5.50 an hour.
And guess what, I'm not special. The consequences that placed me where I was wasn't because of what the Baby Boomers did before me. In fact, it didn't matter who's fault it was. It was life. I could either accept it and drive on or I could sit in that abandoned trailer feeling sorry for myself and bitching how others had been "handed everything economically". This world has never handed me one damn thing nor have I expected it to.
You use your unfortunate upbringing as a source of irrational deep anger and hate for the generation that came after you. It completely takes away your ability to use reason in these conversations.
This post was edited on 4/21/17 at 11:07 am
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