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re: Millennial wealth is still lagging behind previous generations at the same age

Posted on 2/21/20 at 5:55 pm to
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 5:55 pm to
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Most millennials don’t want blue collar jobs because they see the writing on the wall in terms of automation.

Most are placing a bet on themselves (student debt) in hope they can get into a field that pays the bills and won’t get automated within 10 years.



Depends on what you mean by "blue collar"

Call centers, cashiers, truckers, drivers? Yep. We have to be thinking about that.

Manual labor vo-tech degree jobs that require finger dexterity and on-the-fly thinking and changes (plumber, carpenter, mechanic, HVAC).. that won't happen in our lifetime.
This post was edited on 2/21/20 at 5:56 pm
Posted by Janky
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 6:02 pm to
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Idk what your hang up is with missing out on a few hundred in matching retirement funds. Job switching is in no way a factor in low millennial wealth. You make more by switching jobs.



1. You are missing out on the ability to make salary referrals.
2. You are missing out on any matching.
3. You are missing out on the TVM for that amount.
4. You are doing this every 2 years according to this thread.

In 2020 the contribution limit is $19,500. Let’s assume you break that down into 12 equal payments. That means you are missing out on $9750 in contributions plus the match and whatever that grows to over 30 years. Oh, and you are doing this every two years.

That better be one hell of a raise after taxes are paid. Also, you better be a whole better at saving some of that raise than most people.
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 6:07 pm to
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That's because the boomers and their massive leeching numbers won't die off.

How do you think we Boomers feel?

We raised such a generation of worthless, lazy, and stupid humans.

Shame on us.
This post was edited on 2/21/20 at 6:08 pm
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 6:07 pm to
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In 2020 the contribution limit is $19,500. Let’s assume you break that down into 12 equal payments. That means you are missing out on $9750 in contributions plus the match and whatever that grows to over 30 years.


First off, lol if you think people are having trouble building wealth if they make enough salary to contribute the max to a 401k.

Second, you realize that you can contribute the full 19.5k in 6 months right? So let's say you make 100k and you get a 4% match after 6 months. That's only 2k "lost". You're acting like a 2k difference is some make or break figure.


And yes, switching jobs nets a MUCH bigger raise versus sticking around.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
33049 posts
Posted on 2/21/20 at 6:08 pm to
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We raised such a generation of worthless, lazy, and stupid humans.

Sham on us.

Damn right sham on you. You should feel bad. All the problems millennials face is largely your generations fault
Posted by Janky
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 6:08 pm to
Yes you can but very few can afford to put $19.5k over 6 months.
This post was edited on 2/21/20 at 6:10 pm
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 6:10 pm to
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You should feel bad. All the problems millennials face is largely your generations fault


STFU with your entitled bullshite.

Get off your lazy fricking arse and work for something.
Posted by Displaced
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 6:11 pm to
You're projecting...

Typical Boomer who reflects on his life in sham.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 6:11 pm to
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Yes you can but very few can afford to put $19.5k over 6 months.


So they can afford it over 12 months, but it's difficult over 6 in your hypo? Lol
Posted by Janky
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 6:12 pm to
What would be the average raise amount needed to leave?
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 6:12 pm to
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You're projecting...

Typical Boomer who reflects on his life in sham.

My life is pretty good.

Guess what, little boy?

Had to work to get here.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 6:13 pm to
Idk. That's up to the person. I just got a 38% raise by leaving my last job a month ago.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 2/21/20 at 6:14 pm to
Few can afford to over 12 months also
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
33049 posts
Posted on 2/21/20 at 6:15 pm to
So much anger. So little self awareness.

You already admitted your generation is the reason millennials are fricked up due to shitty parenting. I don't know why you despise them so much. How fricked up are your kids? This is a safe place, you can tell us.
This post was edited on 2/21/20 at 6:15 pm
Posted by Janky
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 6:15 pm to
Are you stupid? How much do you think people make where it is not easier to contribute $1625 per month vs. $3250?Not the OT but the real world.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 6:16 pm to
I know. His hypo is stupid. There's mass amounts of data that says job hopping is optimal for growing wealth/income. For some reason he thinks missing out on a few grand (at most) in a 401k match is not worth it.
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
19758 posts
Posted on 2/21/20 at 6:17 pm to
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Idk. That's up to the person. I just got a 38% raise by leaving my last job a month ago.
That works up to a point.

Then you get stuck in a rut of lateral moves. You don't see a lot of guys with 11 jobs over the past 15 years being named the Executive VP.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 6:18 pm to
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Are you stupid? How much do you think people make where it is not easier to contribute $1625 per month vs. $3250?Not the OT but the real world.


The world where those people saved the money they would have placed in the 401k during those 6 months before getting into the plan. It's not that hard.
Posted by wheelr
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 6:18 pm to
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A middle class home costs double what it did in 1990


I was young.

Were houses seen as investments as much as today, or a place to live? Was "flipping" so popular? Does anyone think this has affected prices in a meaningful way?
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
19758 posts
Posted on 2/21/20 at 6:22 pm to
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So much anger. So little self awareness.

You already admitted your generation is the reason millennials are fricked up due to shitty parenting. I don't know why you despise them so much. How fricked up are your kids? This is a safe place, you can tell us.

Remember the part about stupid in my first comment?

Well, my comments were dripping with sarcasm that went right over your pointy little head.

It's called personal responsibility. Something you are obviously lacking.

No, it is not our fault that we won't die so you can get instant wealth. Wait your turn, you self-centered little jerk. Work for something.

The very idea.

"Somebody needs to die so we can have their money."

What kind of a pathetic excuse for a human thinks this way?

This post was edited on 2/21/20 at 6:31 pm
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