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re: Millenials are the worst generation of human beings ever.
Posted on 11/8/14 at 1:55 pm to euquol
Posted on 11/8/14 at 1:55 pm to euquol
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I think this country is screwed once we have an entire workplace of "special" workers we can not criticize and have to coddle.
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This generation has put out a number of entrepreneurs and millionaires unlike any before it. Boomers are the ones who screwed this country, millennials are going to have to save it
Posted on 11/8/14 at 1:56 pm to euquol
"I'm just trying to be diplomatic, but you coddled soft lazy assholes have ruined this country."
You should work for the state department.
You should work for the state department.
This post was edited on 11/8/14 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 11/8/14 at 2:01 pm to euquol
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I think this country is screwed once we have an entire workplace of "special" workers we can not criticize and have to coddle.
Yeah, because millenials are the first generation to get "offended" in the work place. Millenials were in primary school when political correctness took over the workplace. Guess who's fault that was? Some blame goes to the boomers, but most of that actually goes to Gen-X.
Posted on 11/8/14 at 2:02 pm to euquol
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I think this country is screwed once we have an entire workplace of "special" workers we can not criticize and have to coddle.
You're being over dramatic. I have employees ranging from 34-60 and it's already this way.
If I want to critique or discipline an employee, I have to spend hours documenting every instance of them fricking up because inevitably they will go to HR and/or sue. It's the culture that has been created in this society and workplace. It's not just the millenials that have caused this either.
This post was edited on 11/8/14 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 11/8/14 at 2:21 pm to dawgfan24348
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This generation has put out a number of entrepreneurs and millionaires unlike any before it. Boomers are the ones who screwed this country, millennials are going to have to save
I have not researched the issue in any depth but I find it hard to believe millenials have put out that many more "millionaires" per capita than any other generation before it.
All generations have their problems, but I view the typical member of each generation as:
The millenial generation is quite new and this could change but all i see from them is:
That $34,000/year job is not good enough for me. I have a college degree and a lot of debt so I need to be paid at least $48,000 even though I have no job experience and I do not know my arse from a hole in the ground in this profession. Also, you must tell me I am awesome and my work is great 4 times per day or I am just going to quit and go live in my mom's basement (who I view as one of the people destroying the world so she owes that to me anyway).
Yes, gen-xers have their issues but the typical gen-xer was willing to start at the bottom and work their way to the top. The typical millenial demands to start with the stars and if they do not they might as well live in mom's basement until they do.
Posted on 11/8/14 at 2:32 pm to euquol
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That $34,000/year job is not good enough for me. I have a college degree and a lot of debt so I need to be paid at least $48,000 even though I have no job experience and I do not know my arse from a hole in the ground in this profession. Also, you must tell me I am awesome and my work is great 4 times per day or I am just going to quit and go live in my mom's basement (who I view as one of the people destroying the world so she owes that to me anyway).
I love stereotypes based on limited experiences!
It's really the best way to know everything about a group of people.
Posted on 11/8/14 at 2:46 pm to TheChosenOne
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You're being over dramatic. I have employees ranging from 34-60 and it's already this way.
I have only hired 4 secretaries in my 11 year career. I currently do not have one because it simply is not worth the trouble. My experience with those secretaries were as follows:
My first secretary was in her mid 50s. I use Breevy to compose basic correspondence and pleadings. For a standard letter to a client, opposing counsel, etc you type one word and it generates the needed document and prompts you for client specific information. She refused to use it because she could not grasp the concept. She would type letters from scratch and it would take her half an hour to an hour to type something that should have taken 5 minutes. The letters were almost always wrong because she would make up the letters as she went along because she would not bother to look at the forms I spent a career compiling. So not only would she take 6 times as much time generating documents, she was doing them wrong and I was staying in the office after hours doing the work she should have been doing because she refused to use my very simple system because she thought she would not "get it."
My second secretary was in her early 40s. She was a paralegal for a number of years when I decided to hire her and basically she was right and the world was wrong. A paperless system was stupid. My forms were stupid. Basically everything that was not done the precise way she had done it her entire career was stupid. She refused to scan anything because paper files was where it was at. She lasted 8 weeks.
My third secretary was in her early 30s and actually was not bad. She just brought a lot of baggage to work and on her last day her boyfriend came into the office and basically made her quit because they both needed to be unemployed I suppose. She actually did everything I asked of her and followed my system precisely. It took her no time either because frankly my system is not exactly unique.
My fourth secretary made me realize I was better off truly solo. She was 23. She was never on time. Within an hour of showing up late, she was out the door and on her way to Starbucks to get an iced coffee. When she returned it was Facebook, YouTube, and Pinterest until lunch. She might have done 30 minutes of actual work between the time she stumbled in at 10:30 and went to lunch at noon. She was given a one hour lunch and would almost always walk in at 2:00, sometimes later. She would do some scanning and compose basic correspondence until 3:30 where she would then finish off the remainder of the work day on Facebook, YouTube, and Pinterest.
On days when I was in the office she answered the phones religiously. When I was out of the office, the back up offsite receptionist took the vast majority of the messages because she could not be bothered with answering phones.
I actually got to the point to where I restricted internet access on her computer and she confronted me immediately about her inability to "enjoy her job." One day when I was in court, she was caught on the computers of another firm sharing the building getting her facebook fix. I was going to fire her before she quit. She quit because work "was no fun."
So I guess you are right, every generation has its problems.
This post was edited on 11/8/14 at 2:47 pm
Posted on 11/8/14 at 2:50 pm to euquol
quote:Anecdotal evidence girl was clearly raised by boomers.
My fourth secretary made me realize I was better off truly solo. She was 23. She was never on time. Within an hour of showing up late, she was out the door and on her way to Starbucks to get an iced coffee. When she returned it was Facebook, YouTube, and Pinterest until lunch. She might have done 30 minutes of actual work between the time she stumbled in at 10:30 and went to lunch at noon. She was given a one hour lunch and would almost always walk in at 2:00, sometimes later. She would do some scanning and compose basic correspondence until 3:30 where she would then finish off the remainder of the work day on Facebook, YouTube, and Pinterest.
Posted on 11/8/14 at 2:52 pm to euquol
I'm sorry the one Facebook obsessed millenial you hired didn't work out, but secretary jobs don't exactly attract the cream of the crop. That's why the others didn't work out either. You're hiring shitty people.
I'm just not sure what your point is. The educated millenial population is working more for less than prior generations. The same degrees 20 years ago got you a better job.
I'm just not sure what your point is. The educated millenial population is working more for less than prior generations. The same degrees 20 years ago got you a better job.
This post was edited on 11/8/14 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 11/8/14 at 2:54 pm to Slippy
Baby boomers were spoiled, entitled and self centered. They invented the drug culture, hippy culture, and continued the draft dodging culture from previous generations.
I'd argue that generations get better in time. the baby boomers were needed for civil rights. the millenials are needed for our shortcomings.
I'd argue that generations get better in time. the baby boomers were needed for civil rights. the millenials are needed for our shortcomings.
Posted on 11/8/14 at 3:00 pm to Darth_Vader
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I'm from neither but what strikes me is how both millennials and boomers are very much alike in a couple of key areas
1. They are totally overly impressed with themselves when in reality they've not done much of anything of real worth.
2. They think they're far more important than they really are.
3. They think that every one who came before them is totally wrong about virtually everything thus they have virtually zero respect for their elders.
The more I think about it, the more I see there is virtually no difference between the two.
Let me help you find the difference.
The average age of millennials: late teens - early 20s
Average age of boomers: late 50s - 60s
For one of those age groups that behavior is completely normal (albeit irritating). For another that should have been stomped out decades ago.
Which generation is the sad sack of shite again?
Posted on 11/8/14 at 3:00 pm to cahoots
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I'm sorry the one Facebook obsessed millenial you hired didn't work out, but secretary jobs don't exactly attract the cream of the crop. That's why the others didn't work out either. You're hiring shitty people.
I am not sure who you can hire that will perform simple tasks then. The job I need done is not complicated. Type "corclient" (or whatever) and get the information from the client's file for the letter.
I tried hiring someone with no experience and that worked out okay except for the baby daddy drama because she was willing to learn. I tried hiring the established paralegal and that was a disaster because she knew everything and I was an idiot for not wanting to change my system to hers. I tried hiring someone with no experience who was also young thinking I could train someone and eventually have a good well paid employee and well.......... no.
The third secretary would probably still be with me without the baby daddy drama if it were up to me. She was a hard worker.
If I ever feel the need for a secretary again maybe I should let someone else do the hiring.
Posted on 11/8/14 at 3:05 pm to Slippy
Also has anyone else noticed that whenever someone starts the "millennials suck" thread, EVERYONE with millennial kids will insist that it's not THEIR kids that's the problem, just someone else's, cause the boomer poster with millennial kids of course raised them "the right way"?
So when millennials are shitters (and believe me PLENTY of them are) it's millennials who suck, but when millennials are decent or even good people it's because the boomers raised them right.
You people are delusional.
So when millennials are shitters (and believe me PLENTY of them are) it's millennials who suck, but when millennials are decent or even good people it's because the boomers raised them right.
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You people are delusional.
Posted on 11/8/14 at 3:05 pm to VanCleef
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They invented the drug culture, hippy culture, and continued the draft dodging culture from previous generations.
Don't forget about the abortion and gay culture starting up at that time. Thing is, everything mentioned by you and I were considered leftist movements in the day.
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Posted on 11/8/14 at 3:09 pm to Homesick Tiger
I don't think I have EVER seen a thread on the O-T with so many LONG posts.....
BUT its pretty simple... Todays young folk would NOT have survived back 30 years ago.... FACT..... If it wasn't for US, you PUNKS would not have shite......... FACT.............
BUT its pretty simple... Todays young folk would NOT have survived back 30 years ago.... FACT..... If it wasn't for US, you PUNKS would not have shite......... FACT.............
Posted on 11/8/14 at 3:11 pm to dukke v
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Todays young folk would NOT have survived back 30 years ago.... FACT
Ohhhh shite.
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Posted on 11/8/14 at 3:12 pm to dukke v
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BUT its pretty simple... Todays young folk would NOT have survived back 30 years ago.... FACT..... If it wasn't for US, you PUNKS would not have shite......... FACT.............
The fact that you survived is the most scathing indictment of your own argument possible.
Posted on 11/8/14 at 3:21 pm to lsutothetop
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The fact that you survived is the most scathing indictment of your own argument possible.
Posted on 11/8/14 at 3:25 pm to dawgfan24348
Rent is like $900 a month which is ridiculous. Highly doubt you could pay for that when you were 17.
Just because you could move out when you were 17 doesn't mean today's teens can. Freaking dumbass
You missed the part where I said I do not advise people to move out at 17. But in your mid 20s living in your parent's basement, spare bedroom, etc unless you are recently divorced (a few months) is quite pathetic in most circumstances.
I was making slightly more than $750 every 2 weeks and I managed to pay rent, eat, and have lights just fine. Rent was $650.
Just because you could move out when you were 17 doesn't mean today's teens can. Freaking dumbass
You missed the part where I said I do not advise people to move out at 17. But in your mid 20s living in your parent's basement, spare bedroom, etc unless you are recently divorced (a few months) is quite pathetic in most circumstances.
I was making slightly more than $750 every 2 weeks and I managed to pay rent, eat, and have lights just fine. Rent was $650.
Posted on 11/8/14 at 3:27 pm to lsutothetop
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You people are delusional.
Good summary of the thread on both sides.
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