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re: Military Buffs: Navy SEALs Are Comparable to Which Army Unit?

Posted on 8/5/19 at 2:46 pm to
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 8/5/19 at 2:46 pm to
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He's also rocking EOD
He was EOD first in RVN. Then he went through the first SFOD-D selection and is a plank holder. Fascinating guy.
Posted by Korin
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Posted on 8/5/19 at 2:46 pm to
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This thread led to me reading the Delta wiki page and when people say you'd never guess who they are they ain't lying. This baw in the white shirt looks like an accountant but he's actually one of the founding members of Delta:

Larry Vickers is the same way. A fat dude with a goatee who wears generic polo shirts.
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 8/5/19 at 2:48 pm to
It is pretty rare to see a master EOD badge on the same uniform as a CIB, though.
Posted by Korin
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Posted on 8/5/19 at 2:48 pm to
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He was EOD first in RVN. Then he went through the first SFOD-D selection and is a plank holder. Fascinating guy.

I bet selection was similar to Vickers' experience.

Before Vickers was allowed to begin training for a Delta operator position, he had to pass an entrance exercise. The premise was simple: complete a land-navigation course in the mountains of West Virginia. Alone, with a 40-pound rucksack over an 18-mile course. And the time limit to complete this task was only known by test administrators. The students are simply told at the end of the course whether they are good to go or not.
After the full Delta-course training is complete and the enlisted service member is ready to graduate, there is one ?nal test – another land-navigation course, again in the mountains of West Virginia. But this time it’s 40 miles with a 45-pound pack and the time is, again, unknown to the candidate. Go or no-go is all you get at the end. The failure rate during the course is high; estimates are as high as 95 percent, but o?cial numbers are never given.
Posted by Korin
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Posted on 8/5/19 at 2:48 pm to
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It is pretty rare to see a master EOD badge on the same uniform as a CIB, though.

Would EOD only be eligible for the CAB?
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
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Posted on 8/5/19 at 2:50 pm to
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Would EOD only be eligible for the CAB?
Yeah but the CAB wasn't around in his day. He reclassed.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 8/5/19 at 2:50 pm to
I'd imagine seeing a star on jump wings is fairly rare as well
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
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Posted on 8/5/19 at 2:53 pm to
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I'd imagine seeing a star on jump wings is fairly rare as well
Yeah, there were still quite a few from panama when I first joined in the 90's but definitely pretty rare.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 8/5/19 at 2:57 pm to
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He should go to Reggie's just for fun.

I think alot of people overestimate some of the skillsets of these speical forces/Delta soldiers etc etc when it comes to actual fighting

There are college kids and randoms that can still beat the frick out of that guy and others in those units


That isnt the point. The point is he wouldnt get in that situation. He would simply kill you and your cat as you slept and make it look like your cat murdered you and then your cat committed suicide out of grief
This post was edited on 8/5/19 at 2:58 pm
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 8/5/19 at 2:59 pm to
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I think alot of people overestimate some of the skillsets of these speical forces/Delta soldiers etc etc when it comes to actual fighting

There are college kids and randoms that can still beat the frick out of that guy and others in those units
The real problem with fighting a guy like that is that he doesn't have an ounce of quit in him.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 8/5/19 at 3:00 pm to
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The real problem with fighting a guy like that is that he doesn't have an ounce of quit in him.


There are alot of dumbass random men that could beat him to death easily if its just a bar fight scenario

This post was edited on 8/5/19 at 3:00 pm
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 8/5/19 at 3:00 pm to
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It is pretty rare to see a master EOD badge on the same uniform as a CIB, though.
Not really.



Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 8/5/19 at 3:03 pm to
That is, or was, part of the selection. Read the book, “The Men, The Mission & Me”. Pete Blaber. Pete was an officer with CAG during Operation Anaconda and in Iraq. He describes the same scenario.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 8/5/19 at 3:05 pm to
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Not really.

Go big or go home.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 8/5/19 at 3:05 pm to
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That is, or was, part of the selection. Read the book, “The Men, The Mission & Me”. Pete Blaber. Pete was an officer with CAG during Operation Anaconda and in Iraq. He describes the same scenario.

I wonder how much time they have to spend in the pool. Water is the great equalizer.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 8/5/19 at 3:06 pm to
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There are alot of dumbass random men that could beat him to death easily if its just a bar fight scenario
Well, no shite, there's billions of men out there. No ones comparing him to an MMA champ or anything but I'm willing to bet that guy, in his prime, was more than capable of defending himself from 90% of the people he encountered.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/5/19 at 3:08 pm to
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was more than capable of defending himself from 90% of the people he encountered.
I dont disagree, but I dont think its because of superior fighting skills

I think alot of people mistake these guys as brute strength monsters of men that can beat any other man to death with their pinky

That aint what makes these guys elite.
This post was edited on 8/5/19 at 3:09 pm
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37520 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 3:10 pm to
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I think alot of people mistake these guys as brute strength monsters of men that can beat any other man to death with their pinky
I never worked with SF but I've known several guys who went into it, and trust me, I don't think that.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37520 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 3:12 pm to
The strangest part is that he put all those on an AF uniform.
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
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Posted on 8/5/19 at 3:12 pm to
I don’t recall him mentioning but I want to say I’ve heard that all CAG guys must complete Combat Dive School in Key West.

He never insinuates that they are the best at anything, but it’s inferred they are really good at a lot more than almost anyone as individuals and as a team.
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