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re: Microsoft orders employees back to the office

Posted on 9/9/25 at 2:32 pm to
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
7552 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 2:32 pm to
Good. About time. It’s been over 5 years since the start of Covid. Play time is over. Well not totally over. They still only have to go to work 3 days a week.
Posted by FieldEngineer
Member since Jan 2015
2612 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 2:38 pm to
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When I'm in the office, I don't do anything different or have access to anything different than I do at home.


Expanding on this a bit…. These big tech companies have different office spaces than a traditional business. There are pool tables, basketball courts, ping pong tables, and all sorts of other things to distract an employee during the day. It’s encouraged to a certain extent, for the employee to relax and goof off a bit during the day at the office.

Microsoft has all sorts of things like this. They have tree houses on campus, music rooms, game rooms, all sorts of stuff.
Posted by Colonel Angus
Member since Aug 2007
2143 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 2:42 pm to
I don't work for a large corporation, but our CEO just this summer put us on remote work on Fridays and Mondays. We had previously been FT in the office with no remote work. He read some book about it by some corporate muckity muck and decided we had to adapt.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
71054 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 2:45 pm to
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Also, most people aren’t great employees who can work efficiently without supervision. Of course there exceptions, like all the hardworking remote employees on the OT that will be posting in this thread at 2PM on a Tuesday about how they get more done remotely than they ever could at the office. Why go to the break room to frick off and gossip when you can do it in your pajamas on TD?




Posted by MintBerry Crunch
Member since Nov 2010
5852 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 2:46 pm to
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Starbucks CEO lives in fricking Orange County and jet sets back in forth to Seattle on the company dime all the time


He's a good negotiator. Also shows his value. Be more valuable to a company, get the same perks.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37391 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 2:47 pm to
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He's a good negotiator. Also shows his value. Be more valuable to a company, get the same perks.


I don’t care that he does it (other than spending millions of dollars on travel), but in the next breath he’ll tell you how important it is to be in the office.

Just tell the truth
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58310 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 2:49 pm to
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'm less productive in the office and it sounds like that's what they want.
because that is your choice.... and i would bet that statement is a lie. a few posts up summed it up.. the OT is the only place where every remote worker is so great.
Posted by Bigdawgb
Member since Oct 2023
3444 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 2:51 pm to
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He's a good negotiator. Also shows his value. Be more valuable to a company, get the same perks.


Does this work in reverse for CEOs like Cracker Barrel chick that cost their company hundreds of millions of dollars?? Pretty sure nobody on the OT has been that big of a liability
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37391 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 2:52 pm to
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because that is your choice...


Eh, often when I know I need to sit done for hours and grind through some stuff or write technical memo’s, I’m much more productive at home. No one can stop by my office to chat about the game last night, my admin won’t ask about bills, all that bullshite
Posted by ATrillionaire
Houston
Member since Sep 2008
2427 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 2:53 pm to
So, initially they could work half the time from home. Now, they have to work from the office 3 days a week. Isn't that like adding a half of day of in person work?
This post was edited on 9/9/25 at 2:57 pm
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37391 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 2:58 pm to
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So, initially the could work half the time from home. Now, they have to work from the office 3 days a week. Isn't that like adding a half of day of in person work?


The real play is they’re going to end flexible work arrangements or remote work agreements. Those people will quit because it’s feasible to go to the office 3 days a week (or they don’t want to) and Microsoft will get a pretty big reduction in force without having to lay anybody off
Posted by foj1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
4190 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 3:00 pm to
Three days a week starting in February!

THE INJUSTICE!
Posted by Dadren
Jawja
Member since Dec 2023
3140 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 3:01 pm to
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Don’t care either way other than I find it fascinating who devoutly WFHs will defend their position that remote work is the best and only way.

To be fair, most of us who take WFH seriously can’t stand the bums that pretend to work when remote. They’re screwing things up for the rest of us.
Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
17390 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 3:03 pm to
For the record, over the past five and a half years since just before COVID hit to now, Microsoft's share price has more than tripled and they have a market cap of 3.7 trillion.

Maybe work from home isn't responsible for that but it certainly wasn't holding them back.
Posted by parrothead
big salty ham
Member since Mar 2010
5115 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 3:05 pm to
Big Corporate Real Estate strikes again. They can't keep getting away with this!
Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
17390 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 3:06 pm to
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Microsoft will get a pretty big reduction in force without having to lay anybody off


Probably not, unless you have some long timers sitting on a bunch of stock that are in the zone to retire anyway.

It's tough in tech right now and Microsoft pays pretty darn well. No need to let something like this get in the way of a good thing. Make Satya fire you if he wants a reduced headcount and get a sweet severance package.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
106336 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 3:08 pm to
A good chunk of Microsoft employees either are contractors (and they don't force them into office) or they don't live within 50 miles of a Microsoft office. This is 100% about a reduction in force.

Posted by WavinWilly
Wavin Away in Sharlo
Member since Oct 2010
8986 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 3:11 pm to
MSFT has been going through a bunch of layoffs lately. This is just an extension of that.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37391 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 3:21 pm to
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Probably not, unless you have some long timers sitting on a bunch of stock that are in the zone to retire anyway.


I do a decent amount of work in the Seattle market, including a lot the companies you’d know there. A LOT of people during Covid with work from home moved out of Seattle due to the cost of living. I guarantee you they have a sizable amount of their workforce that now lives a couple of hours outside (or further) downtown Seattle.

Amazon has done this same shite
Posted by Shorts Guy
BR
Member since Dec 2023
570 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 3:22 pm to
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Coleman wrote that "this update is not about reducing headcount," and instead is "about working together in a way that enables us to meet our customers' needs."


Found the lie ^
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