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Michael Knowles Prenup - Would you agree to it?

Posted on 1/28/24 at 9:09 am
Posted by Dadren
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Posted on 1/28/24 at 9:09 am
Yesterday’s divorce thread got me thinking about this.

Michael Knowles, (Daily Wire content creator) had a simple proposition. You divorce, you forfeit everything.

It would reduce the number of “no fault” divorces, would address the concerns of the red pill community (can’t loose half your stuff if she decides to leave).

I’d do it with the following modifications:
-If you commit adultery, abuse, or abandonment, you have left the marriage. You don’t get to be a dick and force your spouse to file while keeping everything.
-Only related to assets, joint debts and custody are still adjudicated by the court

Would you do it? Why or why not?

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Posted by dyslexiateechur
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/28/24 at 9:11 am to
There are so many ways this could go wrong.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 1/28/24 at 9:13 am to
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I’d do it with the following modifications: -If you commit adultery, abuse, or abandonment, you have left the marriage. You don’t get to be a dick and force your spouse to file while keeping everything. -Only related to assets, joint debts and custody are still adjudicated by the court


Or…..

Don’t get married and you won’t deal with divorce
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/28/24 at 9:14 am to
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You divorce, you forfeit everything.

That's pretty silly.
Posted by Dadren
Jawja
Member since Dec 2023
935 posts
Posted on 1/28/24 at 9:16 am to
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Don’t get married and you won’t deal with divorce


That’s great if that works for you, but most people don’t want to live in a society where there is no marriage. Why not try to find ways to make it work better?
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61213 posts
Posted on 1/28/24 at 9:16 am to
America doesn't know how it wants to view marriage.


You have tons of secular people who have "traditional" marriages.

You have religious people who still have traditional views.


But then you have the ones who view marriage merely as a business contract and even go as far to say monogamy/marriage is "outdated".


Marriage is important for a stable society but our government does absolutely nothing to facilitate its prevalence and seems more encouraged to promote LGBTQ behaviors than traditional marriages.


If marriage is important then add laws to make it more common and stop incentivizing divorces or the outcome where one person is cut in half in a no fault divorce which eventually destroys kids and sends them on a multi-generation cycle of bad relationship outcomes.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42563 posts
Posted on 1/28/24 at 9:19 am to
This is the worst idea I have ever heard
Posted by Dadren
Jawja
Member since Dec 2023
935 posts
Posted on 1/28/24 at 9:24 am to
Pretty strong opinions against…does anyone care to elaborate on why it’s a silly, terrible idea?
Posted by Dadren
Jawja
Member since Dec 2023
935 posts
Posted on 1/28/24 at 9:35 am to
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If marriage is important then add laws to make it more common and stop incentivizing divorces or the outcome where one person is cut in half in a no fault divorce which eventually destroys kids and sends them on a multi-generation cycle of bad relationship outcomes.


100% agree with this and Knowle’s idea would address that. You don’t just get to walk out the door because “we drifted apart” and walk away with prizes. If you leave the marriage, then you leave everything that “belongs” to the marriage.
Posted by SWCBonfire
South Texas
Member since Aug 2011
1261 posts
Posted on 1/28/24 at 9:37 am to
Marriage is dying because it is fundamentally a contract that benefits the party who breaks it... and penalizes the party who adhered to the contract.

This isn't the fix.
This post was edited on 1/28/24 at 9:40 am
Posted by SmelvinRat
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Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 1/28/24 at 9:39 am to
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If you commit adultery, abuse, or abandonment, you have left the marriage


Some people consider a slight eye-roll as abuse...
Posted by Dadren
Jawja
Member since Dec 2023
935 posts
Posted on 1/28/24 at 9:39 am to
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Marriage is dying because it is fundamentally a contract that benefits the party who breaks it.

This isn't the fix.


I’m confused.

This is exactly the problem his idea is addressing.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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422413 posts
Posted on 1/28/24 at 9:42 am to
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This is exactly the problem his idea is addressing.

His idea is legit insane and very few rational people would ever agree to this.

Say you're a great spouse who is the sole income and your stay at home spouse turns into a huge c-word and gives up in the marriage. No cheating, but just does nothing except bitch at you, eat, and watch tv.

If you divorce her, she gets all of your property/savings.

Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 1/28/24 at 9:43 am to
There are vows for a reason.
Posted by SWCBonfire
South Texas
Member since Aug 2011
1261 posts
Posted on 1/28/24 at 9:43 am to
Because it's also not fair... to someone trapped in a sexless marriage, or to someone married to an addict, for instance.
Posted by soccerfüt
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Member since May 2013
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Posted on 1/28/24 at 9:44 am to
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This is the worst idea I have ever heard
Obviously you’ve never read Peej’s tropical weather forecasts here.

Or any of OweO’s posts.
Posted by dyslexiateechur
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2009
32107 posts
Posted on 1/28/24 at 9:45 am to
It would basically allow someone to hold you hostage in a shitty relationship. Some people treat you like crap the minute they think they have you “trapped” and this is a perfect scenario for those kinds of people to thrive.
Posted by Dadren
Jawja
Member since Dec 2023
935 posts
Posted on 1/28/24 at 9:46 am to
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Say you're a great spouse who is the sole income and your stay at home spouse turns into a huge c-word and gives up in the marriage. No cheating, but just does nothing except bitch at you, eat, and watch tv.

If you divorce her, she gets all of your property/savings.


Aside from mental illness/depression, I have never seen this happen. If you’re a great husband, why would a sane woman choose to live in complete misery?

If she’s mentally unwell, a great husband would get her some help.
Posted by Aguga
Southeast
Member since Aug 2021
2013 posts
Posted on 1/28/24 at 9:47 am to
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I have never seen this happen


Sweet summer child…
Posted by dyslexiateechur
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2009
32107 posts
Posted on 1/28/24 at 9:48 am to
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great husband would get her some help.


Wow that easy, huh?
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