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re: Metallurgist admits faking steel-test results for Navy subs

Posted on 11/12/21 at 2:20 pm to
Posted by Kjnstkmn
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Posted on 11/12/21 at 2:20 pm to
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What if the steel used for military-grade projects was made-inferior by our enemies as a method to weaken? What if Hussein knew and authorized? Renegade.
Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 11/13/21 at 8:07 am to
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What was her motivation?


That is a closely-guarded national security Secret. If China was paying her off, then, the USA would NEVER allow that Secret to be revealed.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 11/13/21 at 8:19 am to
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Are you saying the Navy didn't conduct their own tests or require independent tests to be done?

Not excusing the behavior of the person signing the tests, but you have to take away opportunity. I don't believe this was a solo job either, no way.




Is this the first time you're finding out that the "strongest" military in the world was built by the lowest bidder?
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 11/13/21 at 8:28 am to
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Bet you wouldn't need many guesses where most of that steel was being sourced from...
does it rhyme with China?
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 11/13/21 at 8:29 am to
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Are you saying the Navy didn't conduct their own tests or require independent tests to be done?

Not excusing the behavior of the person signing the tests, but you have to take away opportunity. I don't believe this was a solo job either, no way.
One of my kids is a big deal in a related situation to hers.

Is a member of several ASTM committees, writes policy, etc.

Said there shouldn’t have been three-plus decades without oversight to her work.
Posted by Ed Osteen
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Posted on 11/13/21 at 8:31 am to
I was expecting the kicker to be it saved a struggling company millions or something similar, not that she found the tests to be “stupid”
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
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Posted on 11/13/21 at 8:39 am to
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Thomas faces up to 10 years in prison and a $1 million fine when she is sentenced in February. However, the Justice Department said it would recommend a prison term at the low end of whatever the court determines is the standard sentencing range in her case.


What the frick?!

At a MINIMUM it’s life in prison unless she can prove she is not a fricking Chinese spy

She sabotaged billions of dollars of equipment
Posted by IceTiger
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Posted on 11/13/21 at 8:41 am to
I've seen this somewhere...


For the life of me...?
Posted by IceTiger
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Posted on 11/13/21 at 8:43 am to
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Not excusing the behavior of the person signing the tests, but you have to take away opportunity. I don't believe this was a solo job either, no way.


That's what the milspec is for...


Now they get DR'd until they are tested
Posted by wheelr
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Posted on 11/13/21 at 8:44 am to
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Are you saying the Navy didn't conduct their own tests or require independent tests to be done?


Even the big evil oil companies send third party inspectors (like Bureau Veritas) to their supplier's facilities.
Posted by thermal9221
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Posted on 11/13/21 at 8:52 am to
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Said there shouldn’t have been three-plus decades without oversight to her work.


Yeah that’s what I’m wondering too.
Also, what metallugically was falsified specifically?
Posted by wheelr
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Posted on 11/13/21 at 8:57 am to
Sounds like the charpy impact test.
Posted by thermal9221
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Posted on 11/13/21 at 9:03 am to
It’s pretty amazing she did this for 20 plus years with no issues.
Apparently she was correct in the sense that It doesn’t mean much if the subs never had issues lol.
Posted by TIGER2
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Posted on 11/13/21 at 9:04 am to
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What was her motivation?



one possibility is her company underbid the contract, and when they realized the losses incurred, made up the difference with lowering the standards of the contract. Happens all the time, in every industry.
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 11/13/21 at 9:25 am to
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Apparently she was correct in the sense that It doesn’t mean much if the subs never had issues lol.
hmmmm, that's not how this works
Posted by Sao
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Posted on 11/13/21 at 9:36 am to
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Hang her for treason.



Or hang her still living superiors who directed her to falsify docs in the name of the almighty dollar.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 11/13/21 at 9:45 am to
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What was her motivation?
Keeping her job. There's probably a reason her employer got a much bigger, much earlier fine.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 11/13/21 at 9:48 am to
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I was expecting the kicker to be it saved a struggling company millions or something similar, not that she found the tests to be “stupid”


Yea, I was expecting there to be some financial incentive, like making a bunch on money on sub-par material.

Apparently, her company didn't even know she was doing it.

Looks like she was just lazy and/or stubborn.
This post was edited on 11/13/21 at 9:52 am
Posted by Hurricane Mike
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Posted on 11/13/21 at 9:50 am to
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She needs to be put up against the wall for this. Her laziness could cost an entire sub crew to be lost.


Biden’s DOJ shockingly thinks otherwise
Posted by Art Vandelay
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Posted on 11/13/21 at 10:41 am to
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She suggested that in some cases she changed the tests to passing grades because she thought it was “stupid” that the Navy required the tests to be conducted at negative-100 degrees Fahrenheit (negative-73.3 degrees Celsius).


I deal with a lot of stupid specs that architects and engineers require. But I’m not dealing with 100 people trapped in a bubble Under water.
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