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re: "Men are intimidated by or afraid of smart and powerful women"

Posted on 1/2/20 at 10:38 am to
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 1/2/20 at 10:38 am to
My girl makes more $ than me and has a way more prestigious job and the disparity is probably only going to get wider.

It is a little bit of a mindfrick b/c this wasn't the case when we met 5 years ago, but I'm dealing relatively well.

It's not the worst "problem" in the world, but it's also not the "nonfactor" that I was confident it would be.
This post was edited on 1/2/20 at 10:43 am
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 1/2/20 at 10:39 am to
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True It's more accurate to say they are simply, as a group, MUCH more unreliable. Obviously, this doesn't mean none are reliable


Part of the problem with this whole subject is the fact that feminism has overturned the natural order of things. Biologically, traditionally, genetically, men and women need different things in their mates. Men seek sexual conquest for procreation. They look for younger, healthier women in their prime child-bearing years. Women look for men who can provide prosperity and safety for them and their offspring. Ultimately, the propagation of the species is the goal of both. Feminism fricks this up so you get men who are uncomfortable in an "inferior" role and women that don't know how to balance success with biological imperative.
This post was edited on 1/2/20 at 10:40 am
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 1/2/20 at 10:41 am to
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But the reality is. American women are actually more likely to cheat now than men are. By a fairly we margin too.


But is that true for economically successful people. We are discussing certain women not “all women.”
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 1/2/20 at 10:46 am to
I have a sister in law that is very smart,electrical engineer and MBA by time she was 23.She’s very arrogant,be around her 5 minutes and she lets everyone know she’s the smartest person in the room.Her husband is a big pussy so it works for them.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 10:46 am to
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so you get men who are uncomfortable in an "inferior"
see. I don't like this terminology.

As you stated earlier in your post. Men seek sexual conquest. They PAIR for sexual/emotional security.

Women have effectively eliminated the reason to pair. Men aren't reacting to this with "fear". They're just recognizing that the reason to pair has largely disappeared. So. They go with conquest.

Women, look up and see men not pairing and preferring to treat women as disposable as "fear" but this is silly. Women are being treated in exactly the manner they are ASKING to be treated.

Pussy has ALWAYS been easy to give away. Men have always known this. The change is that now, more and more women happily use their pussy as a constant attention whoring mechanism.

So. Men, who pair for sexual security said...... Ok
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 1/2/20 at 10:49 am to
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American women are actually more likely to cheat now than men are. By a fairly we margin too.


Is there anything to back this up?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 10:51 am to
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But is that true for economically successful people.


Yes. Economically successful men have always been more likely to cheat too.

But for most of history, women got something out of those pairings. And. We set up legal frameworks basically institutionalizing this reality.

Remember. Men don't actually ever have children. They simply borrow them for as long as the woman is willing to stay.

That's why often in the past, men cheated but stayed.

Women bear no such risk when they cheat. They can one up the guy, be economically Superior, and STILL keep the kids and get child support.

Men have noticed. That's just rational. Not fear.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 10:51 am to
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Is there anything to back this up


Yes

Basically every study on the subject in the last ten years
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 10:52 am to
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I have a sister in law that is very smart,electrical engineer and MBA by time she was 23.She’s very arrogant,be around her 5 minutes and she lets everyone know she’s the smartest person in the room.Her husband is a big pussy so it works for them.


I'm honestly shocked she is married at that age.
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 10:54 am to
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Yes

Basically every study on the subject in the last ten years


The very first link I clicked on:





LINK

You can't speak it into existence.
This post was edited on 1/2/20 at 10:56 am
Posted by TiketheMiger
Member since Oct 2011
1511 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 10:55 am to
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Has anyone ever met a single man that was legitimately AFRAID of a woman because she was "too smart" or made too much money?




quote:

Yes.

Several.




My wife's coworker had a fiance that I met at a Christmas party. While talking to him he had brought up about how his fiance would soon be making more than him and he made some comments that seemed like it was kind of an issue. Less than a year after that he ended up cheating on his fiance.

While I haven't met one in person also research the Incel movement. They all have issues with successful women.
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 10:57 am to
Women are closing the gap on cheating. Still haven't seen one study that says they cheat more. I'm going to stop looking.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
22271 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 11:00 am to
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Women have effectively eliminated the reason to pair. Men aren't reacting to this with "fear". They're just recognizing that the reason to pair has largely disappeared. So. They go with conquest.


I would say that many men do react with fear. Sure, the alphas go with conquest. The betas become scared, angry little incels.

Posted by yatesdog38
in your head rent free
Member since Sep 2013
12737 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 11:00 am to
I think the fear is grounded in the fact that women are much more manipulative than men. So when you have a female boss you have to watch your back more and be extra careful how you speak to her.

Meanwhile she can get away talking down to you like she would her 5 year old kid.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 11:10 am to
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I would say that many men do react with fear. Sure, the alphas go with conquest. The betas become scared, angry little incels.


Well yes. I guess this category has manifested itself.

Same reasons though.
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
10439 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 11:11 am to
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A rich man would gladly marry a secretary if she’s hot. Not so much with women. You’ll rarely find a female dr married to a blue collar guy.


I don't agree here. Not necessarily about status, but intelligence.

I couldn't see myself marrying someone I thought was stupid and I didn't respect. I'm married, and she's smart and successful.

There's a difference between physical attraction and long term. I don't know how you make it work long term if she's hot but you don't respect her intellectually. Looks fade and you're just left with someone you don't respect.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 11:16 am to
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There's a difference between physical attraction and long term. I don't know how you make it work long term if she's hot but you don't respect her intellectually. Looks fade and you're just left with someone you don't respect


There are many things one can respect about a person other than just raw intelligence.

I don't know that my grandmother was brilliant. But. She was the absolute epitome of loving, nurturing, and motherhood.

And it isn't like she was an idiot. Feminists often looked at history and saw the men who didn't have the good sense to RESPECT and VALUE such women as the norm. But the reality is, there are many men who are absolutely sensible enough to recognize that such a woman is deserving of great respect and exceptional treatment.

Now. Don't take that to mean I'm saying professional women can't exhibit these features too. They most certainly can.

But these features are highly valuable regardless of income
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 11:20 am to
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You can't speak it into existence

Did you notice that there was a category of women who DO cheat more?

I mean. Ok. Old women skew the stats. But, what that graph tells you VERY fast is in the pairing years, women are worse.

Moreover. Right wrong or otherwise, men often cheat and stay.

Women cheat and dump because men cheat to frick, women cheat to improve
This post was edited on 1/2/20 at 11:22 am
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 11:32 am to
Won't argue with that.
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 11:35 am to
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I mean. Ok. Old women skew the stats. But, what that graph tells you VERY fast is in the pairing years, women are worse.


You could argue that older women cheat less because of natural biological factors.

Old women (in a very general sense) are less attractive than younger women. This goes back into what both sexes value. Older men are seen as more attractive because they are at the height of earning potential.
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