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re: Meet GQ's Citizen of the Year

Posted on 11/13/17 at 9:56 am to
Posted by VanRIch
Wherever
Member since Sep 2007
10396 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 9:56 am to
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We need more people like him in this world.

Holy shite! Have you seen the state of this country? People who get easily offended and want to garner attention from the offense are the last thing this world needs.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67589 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 9:56 am to
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Police kill people of every race. I think it is an issue that everybody should be concerned with.


The problem with the people who support this narrative is they don't exclude the number of people who deserved to be shot by the police....the actual real number of people unjustifiably killed by police is pretty low.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43103 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 10:03 am to
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With the inherent bias that they have towards the demographic that is speaking the loudest, they automatically defaulted to be against them regardless.
Couldn't have anything to do with them choosing to protest during a time that is reserved to show respect and honor for the country and those who died defending it... Or how about him wearing socks with pigs dressed as policemen, should everyone support that too?
Posted by MSMHater
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
22774 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 10:03 am to
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With the inherent bias that they have towards the demographic that is speaking the loudest, they automatically defaulted to be against them regardless.


I'm not. At all. But I was pushed away from "the issue" when I was told police brutality isn't really an issue that is about me. That it is an issue that minorities face alone. That my thoughts and (significant) personal experiences on the issue were jaded due to my privilege and skin color.

And I continued to be pushed away every time Michael Brown and Alton Sterling were made the personification of "victim", entirely b/c of their skin color, when there were so many legitimate examples that could have been held up instead.

This issue is frustrating as shite for me, b/c I feel it's basically dead at this point. There is no drive to reign in police brutality. No serious opposition to "comply or die". No push to alter police training. Maybe it's unreasonable, but I think Kaep and crew are a big part of the issue becoming stagnant on a national level.
This post was edited on 11/13/17 at 10:07 am
Posted by tygeray
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
745 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 10:03 am to
Citizen of the year that publicly endorsed Castro! I hate he is known for kneeling and not that. Scream social injustice, but look at the ucla basketball players right now. They may spend 3 months in jail for stealing! (Conviction rate is over 99%). So unless this horrible country we live in pleads with china and makes a deal they are hosed.
Posted by TurkeysAndBees
Member since Jan 2017
651 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 10:05 am to
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White people loved Mohammed Ali years after he did the same thing. So hold your fake outrage at Kap.




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He fought in Manilla


"Manilla" was Ali's THIRD fight vs. Frazier, six years AFTER his boxing license was restored. Ali was denied license, stripped of his title and passport, sentenced to 5 years prison, and did not fight from age 25 until 29 in his "exile" from boxing brought on by his "draft dodging" and public opposition to the Vietnam War. Truth of the matter is that many "white people" were taking the same stance against the war. Ali was the undisputed heavyweight champion of the world, is considered the greatest the sport has ever seen, and in his prime when he walked away from millions as a religious objector. His conviction was eventually overturned and due to support from "white people", his license restored while his court case was still an appeals.

Kap is none of the above, not even close, and above quotes are a typical quasi-social commentary of justification with skewed and false "truths".
This post was edited on 11/13/17 at 10:08 am
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
42276 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 10:05 am to
Magazines still exist? I thought all of the ones you see in doctor's offices were just like ancient ones that have been sitting there for years.
This post was edited on 11/13/17 at 10:06 am
Posted by MSMHater
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
22774 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 10:05 am to
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the actual real number of people unjustifiably killed by police is pretty low.


This should be what we are talking about. The justification for "comply or die" policies and the legal shield provided to police that abuse it.

But no...we're talking about what a dumbass Kaep is and what racist shitheads BLM are. Congratulations, Colin.
Posted by WhoDatNC
NC
Member since Dec 2013
11701 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 10:08 am to
Desperate to sell copies....
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
23830 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 10:12 am to
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I'm not. At all. But I was pushed away from "the issue" when I was told police brutality isn't really an issue that is about me. That it is an issue that minorities face alone. That my thoughts and (significant) personal experiences on the issue were jaded due to my privilege and skin color.
I can show examples of police being far more patient with unruly white males, some armed, and females opposed to blacks that pose a far less threat.

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And I continued to be pushed away every time Michael Brown and Alton Sterling were made the personification of "victim", entirely b/c of their skin color, when there were so many legitimate examples that could have been held up instead.
If the truth bothers you it says more about you

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This issue is frustrating as shite for me, b/c I feel it's basically dead at this point. There is no drive to reign in police brutality. No serious opposition to "comply or die". No push to alter police training. Maybe it's unreasonable, but I think Kaep and crew are a big part of the issue becoming stagnant on a national level.

The bias lets you settle in on the fact that at least it isn't me and the victims are black so you gives a crap
Posted by celltech1981
Member since Jul 2014
8139 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 10:13 am to
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the actual real number of people unjustifiably killed by police is pretty low.


Even one is too many.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67589 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 10:15 am to
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The justification for "comply or die" policies and the legal shield provided to police that abuse it.


BLM should only use cases that the cops clearly fricked up rather than using cases involving criminals like Michael Brown and Alton Sterling....The young high school kid around Dallas is what they should focus on but I guess it's hard to protest when the cop got fired and charged.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
23830 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 10:17 am to
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Couldn't have anything to do with them choosing to protest during a time that is reserved to show respect and honor for the country and those who died defending it... Or how about him wearing socks with pigs dressed as policemen, should everyone support that too?

The hate for the voice goes far beyond CK. His method of protest just gave the strong opposition a way to hide their bias and disgust for anyone speaking up as virtue signaling.
Posted by MSMHater
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
22774 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 10:20 am to
Why are you defaulting to just being argumentative? You didn't post anything significant. Just reverted back to subtle accusations of racism and bias without evidence of either. Basically the exact reason people don't support those championing this dying cause.

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I can show examples of police being far more patient with unruly white males, some armed, and females opposed to blacks that pose a far less threat.

Not relevent
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If the truth bothers you it says more about you

Deflection
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The bias lets you settle in on the fact that at least it isn't me and the victims are black so you gives a crap

And ignorance. I care about the issue due to previous personal experience with it. On at least 2 occasions. And they have always stuck with me.

And you just dismiss that. So it's really not hard to understand why you/they can't generate support for a legitimate issue.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67589 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 10:21 am to
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Even one is too many.


You will never be able to eliminate human error
Posted by JETigER
LSU 2011 National Champions
Member since Dec 2003
7081 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 10:21 am to
If Allah was truly God then I would have been adopted by an outstanding family like Colin was and given every opportunity that Colin was given.

Posted by MSMHater
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
22774 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 10:24 am to
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.The young high school kid around Dallas is what they should focus on but I guess it's hard to protest when the cop got fired and charged.



The baby in Atlanta that caught a stun grenade in his crib.
The 8 year old Ohio boy with the bb gun.
Walter Scott
The young black college kid in Minnesota (caught on FB, I think)
The behavioral therapist in Florida protecting her patient

I could keep going. All legitimate cases. Why champion Brown and Sterling to your cause?
This post was edited on 11/13/17 at 10:25 am
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
23830 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 10:24 am to
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Not relevent
Very much relevant because it shows that bias from police

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Deflection
Not really. If you don't want to stand on your morals because you don't like where the message is coming from then it is something internal that doesn't allow you to do so.

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And ignorance. I care about the issue due to previous personal experience with it. On at least 2 occasions. And they have always stuck with me.

And you just dismiss that. So it's really not hard to understand why you/they can't generate support for a legitimate issue.
And if you truly cared about the issue you wouldn't let the source of the voice be deter you
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43103 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 10:24 am to
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The hate for the voice goes far beyond CK. His method of protest just gave the strong opposition a way to hide their bias and disgust for anyone speaking up as virtue signaling.
Well a good portion of that opposition is a defensive response wouldn't you think? Kaep is obviously racist since he's only concerned about one race. He's also insulting and disrespecting ALL law enforcement by portraying them as pigs instead of focusing on the 1% of actual bad cops out there. (maybe its 5% or whatever, you get my point). When you start off your protest by insulting the entire country and all law enforcement, you have an uphill climb on your hands. Dude thought everyone would hop on his bandwagon and it just didn't turn out that way. And I do believe in his right to do what he did. I also believe in others' right to say frick you to him and the NFL as a response.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79649 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 10:24 am to
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It was what he felt was right


It was a stunt to extort some NFL team into signing him because he knew he wasn't gonna get signed on his abilities. It backfired on him when they called his bluff.
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