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re: Media rushes to remind everyone that 1 extremely cold event doesn't debunk global warming
Posted on 1/30/19 at 8:59 am to slackster
Posted on 1/30/19 at 8:59 am to slackster
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I do trust the predictions based on these trends.
Which predictions specifically? Anything other than "sea level will not remain constant" is little more than speculation IMO.
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Posted on 1/30/19 at 9:01 am to LNCHBOX
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Anything other than "sea level will not remain constant" is little more than speculation
Based on physics.
Imperfect models yes, but "speculation" informed by physics.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 9:03 am to member12
Y’all do know that if global warming was an actual thing it would probably cause a mini ice age correct?
Weather is becoming more extreme. There is no reason to fight about the reason. This is the craziest political thing ever. STOP FIGHTING ABOUT WHO IS RIGHT ABOUT EVERYTHING.
Weather is becoming more extreme. There is no reason to fight about the reason. This is the craziest political thing ever. STOP FIGHTING ABOUT WHO IS RIGHT ABOUT EVERYTHING.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 9:09 am to bigberg2000
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There is no reason to fight about the reason.
There is when there's money and power at stake.
The benefits of having a massive government that has tendrils in to every aspect of our lives.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 9:10 am to member12
195 countries believe global warming is man made and have agreed to mitigate it. Our president and his loonies think it’s fake and made up by the Chinese. End thread
Posted on 1/30/19 at 9:13 am to crewdepoo
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195 countries believe global warming is man made and have agreed to mitigate it
hey back to us when China and India agree hoss quote:
Our president and his loonies think it’s fake and made up by the Chinese
Beta Male
Posted on 1/30/19 at 9:16 am to SDVTiger
quote:Trump indeed, hell Pelosi handed him his arse.
Beta Male
I'll trust the scientists over the Horse haired loon as far as climate change.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 9:19 am to TT9
Imagine being a male and being on Team Pelosi
Posted on 1/30/19 at 9:21 am to crewdepoo
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195 countries believe global warming is man made and have agreed to mitigate it.
You're rather naive if you think any of those countries are actually going to do anything to mitigate "global warming."
Not to mention most of them stand to gain a great deal of wealth from it.
And the main country responsible doesn't give two shits.\
It's nothing but virtue signaling on the international stage.
This post was edited on 1/30/19 at 9:22 am
Posted on 1/30/19 at 9:25 am to LNCHBOX
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Al gore didn't do this for the greater good of humanity. He peddled a bunch of iffy at best science to make a shitload of money. Questioning the science behind man-made climate change is perfectly rational.
Even after his global warming mentor started questioning it all. Gore was to far invested to stop. Guy is a true POS
Posted on 1/30/19 at 9:39 am to dgnx6
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What do these people actually expect us to do as individuals about global warming? There are countries with billions of people that are fricking this place up way more than we ever could.
Don't even ask this question...this is what they want you to ask...you mind as well just take your wallet out now.
Don't oblige them in anyway whatsoever.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 9:40 am to member12
Yet one hurricane supports it?
Posted on 1/30/19 at 9:46 am to crewdepoo
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195 countries believe global warming is man made and have agreed to mitigate it. Our president and his loonies think it’s fake and made up by the Chinese. End thread
And only one country will pay for it. Id rather my tax dollars go towards REAL problems.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 9:55 am to tommy2tone1999
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Yet one hurricane supports it?
No single weather event supports climate change. It's a question of frequency and with hurricanes it's more a question of rate of the rapidly strengthening storms imho, since they won't take full advantage of the additional heat if they are organizationally challenged.
The question is more are we seeing faster strengthening in rapid intensification events compared to history.
Simply put, climate is your personality and weather is your mood. Being grumpy doesn't mean you're an a-hole but being grumpy all the time means you are an a-hole.
This post was edited on 1/30/19 at 9:56 am
Posted on 1/30/19 at 9:59 am to Duke
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Based on physics.
Imperfect models yes, but "speculation" informed by physics.
What exactly do you mean by this? Better yet, can you just answer my question of which predictions should be trusted? And which previous specific predictions have played out as predicted?
ETA: Do not take my questions as denying the entirety of climate change, because that isn't what this is.
This post was edited on 1/30/19 at 10:00 am
Posted on 1/30/19 at 10:05 am to TheCaterpillar
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No, it’s pretty much just climate change now. You people politicizing everything are the worst.
Climate change, huh? They are called weather seasons. In the fall/ winter it’s cold and rains a lot, like the last several months. In the summer it’s hot and dry, like it will be from May until August or September. It’s been like this since before you were born and will be like this after we are all long gone.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 10:16 am to LNCHBOX
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What exactly do you mean by this?
I mean that the projections are based on our understanding of how CO2 and other greenhouse gases prevent radiation from leaving the atmosphere. The impact of solar cycles on the amount of radiation that gets to earth. That increased cloud cover from the increase in water vapor from a warmer ocean may reduce the solar radiation that reaches the ground. How the increase in ocean temps and melting ice will impact the ocean currents that circulate heat from the equator to the poles.
The projections have a basis in our understanding of the underlying physics.
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Better yet, can you just answer my question of which predictions should be trusted?
Harder question because it depends on the modeling and assumptions. You have to consider the aggregate of information. Warmer planet, more extremes in weather. More droughts. Shifting of where extreme weather happens, see tornadoes in the southeast vs tornado alley (recent study, would wait for more data to fully confirm this is happening). Just like one weather event doesn't support climate change, one study doesn't either. The orgy of evidence suggests sea levels will rise, drought will be more common in certain places, flooding in others.
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And which previous specific predictions have played out as predicted?
Increases in frequency of flooding events globally is a good start, and exactly what you'd expect from a warmer background.
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Do not take my questions as denying the entirety of climate change, because that isn't what this is.
I'm not. I'm trying to explain there is a strong theoretical framework that informs the predictions. They won't always be right and as more information is available there will be shifts in projections. Modeling is imperfect but that shouldn't dismiss everything we have.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 10:31 am to member12
Extreme storms is definitely a sign of global warming both cold, hot, wet, and dry.
How is this even still an argument? The only "science" debunking global warming is paid for by oil companies and other special interest groups.
How is this even still an argument? The only "science" debunking global warming is paid for by oil companies and other special interest groups.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 10:33 am to MLCLyons
quote:was the dust bowl caused by global warming?
Extreme storms is definitely a sign of global warming both cold, hot, wet, and dry.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 10:35 am to MLCLyons
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Extreme storms is definitely a sign of global warming both cold, hot, wet, and dry.
It is? Got some data to back this up?
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