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re: Media helicopter crashes live on air in Los Angeles

Posted on 9/16/26 at 7:03 am to
Posted by HarryHoudini
Member since Oct 2025
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Posted on 9/16/26 at 7:03 am to
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I know you don't see helicopter crashes very often, b


I feel like this happens more often than it should. I won’t ever get one of those things.
This post was edited on 9/16/26 at 7:04 am
Posted by jpainter6174
Boss city
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 9/16/26 at 7:36 am to
the Horn noise was the Low rotor, probably had some kind of engine failure while hovering or circling with low airspeed (worst case scenario) started falling and the pilot probably pulled up on the collective lever which made the rotor droop more. When you should lower the collective and nose forward to build airspeed and rotor, but the altitude was probably to low for that.

Or got into steeling with power and also should have lowered the collective and nose forward to build airspeed and rotor
This post was edited on 9/16/26 at 7:55 am
Posted by backbone
Colorado
Member since Jul 2026
821 posts
Posted on 9/16/26 at 7:48 am to
We sometimes fly up to 7 helicopters on fire restoration jobs, the pilots are mainly crazy but good (mostly from New Zealand) and there’s strict maintenance done everyday.

We’ve even run Blackhawks with no accidents.
Posted by salty1
Member since Jun 2015
5305 posts
Posted on 9/16/26 at 8:11 am to
In my opinion, helicopters are much safer than planes. I don’t know how many hours I have sitting in the back of helicopters (Hueys, 46s, 53s, the occasional Blackhawk) but it’s a freaking lot. Only had two basically fall out of the sky…only a few hundred feet up both times…walked away both times. Not many people walk away from airplane crashes. I was involved in testing the Ospreys when they first came out…we lost a lot of Marines testing those things. Whenever I was on an Osprey, the pucker factor was high.
This post was edited on 9/16/26 at 8:12 am
Posted by Traveler
I'm not late-I'm early for tomorrow
Member since Sep 2003
26724 posts
Posted on 9/16/26 at 8:17 am to
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steeling with power

I think you meant "settling with power". I had that demonstrated to me in a Huey and for those few moments I thought it was coming apart.
Posted by backbone
Colorado
Member since Jul 2026
821 posts
Posted on 9/16/26 at 8:19 am to
I would fly units (polygons) on a Huey and I would be sick after every inspection. Motion sickness is a bitch especially with a shitty pilot.

This idiot would get lost, couldn’t find the units and would get half the drops the other pilots would make in a day.

We flew Kmax too, the double prop with no tail rotor. Same engine as a Huey but could lift twice as much. It’s crazy how small helicopter engines are.
Posted by HeadSlash
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Member since Aug 2006
57205 posts
Posted on 9/16/26 at 8:20 am to
The media is scum and they all need to die.
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
26621 posts
Posted on 9/16/26 at 8:20 am to
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You would need a drone with a very long battery life and range to fly all over L.A. Metro


Switching to commercial long duration drones would be 95% cheaper than helicopter use. Assuming initial buys at same time. If the helicopter is already a sunk cost and owned by station the savings lowers.

They could have a fleet of drones for much cheaper than a single helicopter.
Posted by salty1
Member since Jun 2015
5305 posts
Posted on 9/16/26 at 8:27 am to
A properly setup 2stroke gas drone is about $130K…pilots are available….especially in big cities. Flight time is about 5 hours. Three or four pilots to rotate and four or five drones and you’re set up. Probably need a chase vehicle or two for launch and retrieval.
Posted by jpainter6174
Boss city
Member since Feb 2014
6921 posts
Posted on 9/16/26 at 8:32 am to
That's exactly what I meant! lol damn typo's!
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/16/26 at 8:43 am to
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Thanks for asking grok for us bro

Posted by Jmcc64
alabama
Member since Apr 2021
2702 posts
Posted on 9/16/26 at 8:45 am to
turn the sound up. over the buzzing horn, you can hear the engine spooling down.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
42327 posts
Posted on 9/16/26 at 8:45 am to
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14,000 flight hours


Statisically, he was due.


If you're a professional helicopter pilot for 30 years, there's a very significant chance you will be involved in a helicopter crash.

I remember doing some research on this after the Kobe crash. He was daily commuting via helicopter. At that frequency, it would have be stranger for Kobe to NOT be involved in a crash.
Posted by Shorts Guy
BR
Member since Dec 2023
1209 posts
Posted on 9/16/26 at 8:47 am to
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In my opinion, helicopters are much safer than planes.


I’ll never get in a helicopter or a small/private plane again if I can help it. The autopsy reports are just brutal.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
42327 posts
Posted on 9/16/26 at 8:49 am to
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In my opinion, helicopters are much safer than planes.


Well that's dumb as frick lol.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
179441 posts
Posted on 9/16/26 at 8:58 am to
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In my opinion, helicopters are much safer than planes. I don’t know how many hours I have sitting in the back of helicopters (Hueys, 46s, 53s, the occasional Blackhawk) but it’s a freaking lot. Only had two basically fall out of the sky…only a few hundred feet up both times…walked away both times. Not many people walk away from airplane crashes.

Just because you didn’t die in two helicopter crashes doesn’t mean they’re safer than planes. Because the planes wouldn’t have crashed in the first place.
Posted by Texjohnson
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2020
282 posts
Posted on 9/16/26 at 9:04 am to
Just use drones
Posted by AUFANATL
Member since Dec 2007
5654 posts
Posted on 9/16/26 at 9:24 am to

Francis Gary Powers, the famous U-2 pilot that was shot down over Russia during the Cold War also died piloting a helicopter for the same NBC station in Los Angeles.

The fuel gauge didn't properly register the amount of fuel so the pilots had developed a system for tracking what the gauge read versus what was in the tank. Then a mechanic fixed the gauge without recording it in the logbook. Powers took off thinking he had a full tank and then ran out of fuel. He supposedly might have landed safely but the chopper descended towards a school playground and he veered away.

Posted by iosman987
Member since Feb 2020
69 posts
Posted on 9/16/26 at 11:26 am to
Man, that is absolutely horrifying to hear. Live broadcast news coverage can turn tragic in a split second. Really hoping the crew and everyone involved somehow made it out alright!
Posted by Stinger_1066
On a golf course
Member since Jul 2021
4303 posts
Posted on 9/16/26 at 11:45 am to
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Well damn, that sucks.

I know you don't see helicopter crashes very often, but I imagine it's pretty rare that people survive those, huh?

And yeah, 14,000 hours of flight time seems like an eternity, so I assume this was some sort of mechanical failure instead of pilot error.

Sad situation.


Definitely sad.

In Oklahoma City, all of the TV stations have one, and sometimes they fly pretty close to each other when they are covering an accident scene or thunderstorm. I've often thought that it is only a matter of time before one will crash on air.

One of the long time pilots crashed one shortly before he retired. He was trying to land it on the back of a flatbed truck, but it fell off the side while the rotor was still turning. He survived, but he never flew again, plus the helicopter was totaled.

I had a summer job back in 1982 servicing communication systems for off-shore gas wells. I got to fly in both small and large copters that summer. The pilots were all crazy Vietnam vets.

Later, after I graduated from college and got a real engineering job, I worked with an older Vietnamese engineer. I didn't know him very well, but he was able to get one of his grown children extracted from Vietnam back when Vietnam was still on bad terms with the US. He had a party to welcome his son to America. He came by my cubicle to give me the invitation, and we had a brief discussion about his life in Vietnam. He was a helicopter pilot in the Vietnamese army, and he was shot down over the jungle by the VC while carrying a group of soldiers.

In broken English, he was able to describe to me in detail how he was able to bring the auto-rotating copter down to a hard landing, and how he was able to avoid being captured by the VC. It was a harrowing tale.
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