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re: Mechanics/ Adjustors of the OT: Totaled Vehicle options

Posted on 11/3/22 at 11:29 am to
Posted by LSUgolf
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Posted on 11/3/22 at 11:29 am to
Salvage value on that is going to be crazy high. its going to shock you on your buy back price.

I just totaled a 2013 wrangler sahara with 124k miles on it. i walked away with 28500. i wanted to keep it. they told me 9k. i told them to keep it. it had almost 20k in damage.

i also frove mine home. i did not think it was totaled.
This post was edited on 11/3/22 at 11:34 am
Posted by Pvt Hudson
Member since Jan 2013
4288 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 11:30 am to
Going through this myself with a Jeep. Other party was responsible, and they just told me it was totaled. Waiting on the settlement amount.

Problem with buying it back is that few companies will do the repairs to a totaled vehicle and fewer will warrant their work. Insurance company may decline to cover you for collision on a salvage or rebuilt vehicle and in Texas, a salvage vehicle has to pass an inspection before being certified as rebuilt and eligible to be registered for road use.

Anticipating a low-ball offer from the insurance company. Sharpening my comparable appraisal skills now -
Posted by MyNameIsNobody
Member since Dec 2013
1174 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 11:38 am to
quote:

This.

Let’s say you get 40k for the truck. Buy back old one for 5k.



Good luck getting it back for 5k.

This one is up to $17K. And looking at the pictures...looks like an easy fix. miles are low.

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Posted by LSUgolf
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Posted on 11/3/22 at 11:40 am to
Wrangler?

I turned down my first 2 offers and accepted the third. the 3rd offer was 1300.00 higher than what I expected.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
23906 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 11:55 am to
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Also, beware the insurer taking your truck repairing it themselves and selling for a big profit
Insurance companies aren’t in the business of fixing and reselling vehicles. They’ll take the totalled vehicle and sell it to a junkyard, unless the claimant wants to buy it back. But either way, it’ll have a salvage title, which is going to greatly reduce the value.

quote:

The high value of used cars these days have really screwed up this process.
Which means the insurance company is going to have to payout a higher value when they total the vehicle too
This post was edited on 11/3/22 at 11:58 am
Posted by CaptainsWafer
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Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 11/3/22 at 11:56 am to
quote:

If the cost to repair is 50% of the value of vehicle, insurance will typically total it out


75% is the law in LA


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Do remember to get the Diminished Value of the vehicle from their insurance company as well.


Why would they lay diminished value if they’ve paid for the trick.






Some of you have absolutely no clue about insurance and should stay out of these convos.
Posted by stratman
NOLA
Member since Apr 2013
977 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 11:57 am to
quote:

Also, beware the insurer taking your truck repairing it themselves and selling for a big profit. The high value of used cars these days have really screwed up this process.




I have been an auto adjuster for 23 years and I have NEVER heard of this happening. Whenever I have to total a car (which, to answer something brought up by the OP) I always put my eyes on the vehicle before I write any type of estimate. When this vehicle's damages reach 75% of the ACV of the vehicle (typically done through the NADA Split Book value) a total loss negotiation and settlement ensues. If that person's vehicle is a total loss then I either find a local salvage dealer to buy the salvage or I use Copart or I.A.A. to buy and process the salvage. The insurance company, at least any of the companies that I have written for (I am an independent adjuster and have several different companies as clients) has nothing to do with the salvage except that they recover salvage value from a salvage buyer. What the salvage buyer does with the proceeds from the sale is the salvage buyer's business. In other words, a salvage buyer bids on the salvage of the t/l vehicle, the insurance company will then sell the salvage to the high bidder or the salvage company will auction off the vehicle and the high bid proceeds will go to the company. I have never seen or heard of an insurance company finding a shop to repair the total loss vehicle and then selling it at a profit.

But, since I have never seen or heard of this, as it is highly illegal, that doesn't mean someone's brother in law isn't doing it.
Posted by CaptainsWafer
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Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 11/3/22 at 11:57 am to
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Negotiate with the insurance company that you keep ownership of the vehicle, simple and they'd rather that option. They might deduct the value of the truck but that would be scrap/parts value. Have it repaired to your satisfaction, inspected for safety and you are all set.

Fairly straightforward. I would not inform the insurance company what your body shop thinks. If they already decided it is totaled, that's fine, they know what they're doing.


If they handle as a total and he keeps the truck the state will issue a salvage title. Once repairs are complete he’ll have to apply for a reconstructed title. Should it be involved in another accident and deemed a total loss, it will be worth significantly less because of the reconstructed title.
Posted by CaptainsWafer
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Member since Feb 2006
58780 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 12:03 pm to
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Can I fight the total claim by the insurance? Or have them send out someone to inspect it before accepting what they offer me?


Let them know you’ve taken it to a shop and their estimate is less than the total loss threshold, and ask them to reinspect. You can provide them with the shops estimate and photos.

If this is the at fault drivers insurance you can also file a collision claim to have your company inspect and provide their opinion. That will give you an additional option(s).

The other company is at fault and they should make your insurer while if you proceed with the collision claim.
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
14338 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 1:14 pm to
Ok so they sell to someone else who fixes and sells it. Whatever.

I had this same fight with my insurer earlier this year. They wanted to total my truck. I had to show them the current value to get them to back off.

Bottom line - do not trust your lying arse POS insurance company. You may need to fight to keep your ride and not be forced to go spend $50k or more on a replacement.
Posted by Tiger in the Sticks
Back in the Boot
Member since Jan 2007
1616 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 7:26 pm to
Unfortunately, we dealt with a totaled Tacoma after the 2016 flooding. In Louisiana, the vehicle valuation is required to be calculated using NADA, and the total loss threshold is reached when the damage reaches 75% of that value. So If your truck is valued @ $40K, there would need to be $30K in damage. Did they provide you with a copy of their estimate? If the estimate was written using photos, I would definitely want a body shop to write an estimate at their facility. This may be one of those times that it’s better to handle under your own collision coverage and let your insurer recover the $$$.
Posted by Klondikekajun
Member since Jun 2020
1407 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 8:13 pm to
Am I missing something or is a rear end collision with no frame damage on a 2 yo Toyota seems odd for a total?
Posted by Tiger in the Sticks
Back in the Boot
Member since Jan 2007
1616 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 9:35 pm to
Am I missing something or is a rear end collision with no frame damage on a 2 yo Toyota seems odd for a total?

No, you’re not missing anything. I can’t imagine this would be a total, I’m wondering if maybe they had the 2 vehicles mixed up, wrong photos etc. That’s why I suggested taking it to a shop for an estimate.
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
23367 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 9:39 pm to
How your neck and back feel?
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
11693 posts
Posted on 11/4/22 at 12:26 am to
Most companies will allow you to keep the vehicle after deducting the amount they would have received for the salvage after settling with you. Example your vehicle is worth $15,000.00, high salvage bid is $2,000.00 you receive $13,000.00 and keep the truck.
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
11693 posts
Posted on 11/4/22 at 12:37 am to
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Which insurance company are you dealing with?


National General


Mr. Oneal will be your adjuster , sir. Settlement will be a slam dunk.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
70929 posts
Posted on 11/4/22 at 5:00 am to
Accept the total. Then try and buy back vehicle.
Tacoma still for big money reconstructed. You be able to flip it
Posted by lourob
Gonzales, LA
Member since Jun 2014
86 posts
Posted on 11/4/22 at 5:51 am to
Man I hear ya, same shite happened to me in January this year and I think I got f'd. Wasn't my fault but I somehow went from a truck that was paid for, to a used truck with a $500 note. A 2020 truck should have a pretty decent appraisal. State of Louisiana defines a totaled vehicle as a claim 75% or greater of the vehicle worth. From what it sounds like, you don't have close to 75% worth of claim, esp if the frame is not bent. I'd fight it man. Don't get screwed like I did. I know my old Hemi has probably been back on the road, while the insurance company turned a profit.
Posted by partsman103
Member since Sep 2008
8318 posts
Posted on 11/4/22 at 6:03 am to
quote:

If the cost to repair is 50% of the value of vehicle, insurance will typically total it out.


75% of value
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