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re: McMichael called Arbery n-word after shooting, has a history of using it on social media

Posted on 6/4/20 at 12:47 pm to
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 6/4/20 at 12:47 pm to
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it’s only used to instill fear to the masses in a voting year

Ah, so this is all a plot against donald trump.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54881 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 12:47 pm to
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No they're not. From rule 801 of the federal rules of evidence
We are just talking past each other. We agree. I was referring to them qualifying as the definition of hearsay because they are out of court statements offered for the truth of the matter asserted.

You are correct though about the federal rules and probably all state rules disqualifying certain party statements.
This post was edited on 6/4/20 at 12:51 pm
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
10476 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 12:48 pm to
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This data set doesn’t constitute this much outrage and destruction.


I posted this on the previous page too. People who can't call racism for what it is and have to drop into whataboutism instead suck.

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But call me a racist for posting the real numbers. Matter of fact, be outraged about them.


Oh, I'm sorry you're the real victim in all of this.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
44412 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 12:48 pm to
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Ah, so this is all a plot against donald trump.


Or Mitt Romney, George Bush, John McCain, shite any white Republican.

But when Trump gets 15% of the black vote; it’s going to be a landslide.
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 12:50 pm to
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He's just got egg on his face defending McMichael in all of the Arbery threads.



It is much worse than that. The guy is so fricking pathetic that when person after person said going into houses under construction to look around is commonplace, he made up being a former general contractor(then lost track of his lies and claimed to currently be a contractor) just to try and claim that people do not go into homes under construction on a regular basis. What a sad little worm of a man.
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
10476 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 12:50 pm to
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We are just taking past each other. We agree.


It's kind of semantics either way. No biggie. I wasn't trying to argue, no disrespect intended.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
109036 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 12:51 pm to
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Or Mitt Romney, George Bush, John McCain, shite any white Republican.

But when Trump gets 15% of the black vote; it’s going to be a landslide.



So the only reason the media is relaying what was given in testimony is because they want to fan the flames?

You honestly think a case about some serious corruption and men who murder someone in the middle of the street over simple trespassing wouldn't get air time any other year?
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 12:51 pm to
The mcmichaels were a liberal plant who killed him to stick it to republicans?
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/4/20 at 12:52 pm to
I wonder where The Pirate King is. His takes on this were so thoughtful and well reasoned.
Posted by kage
ATL
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 6/4/20 at 12:53 pm to
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But since 2016, the number of police shootings have gone down. That’s really the point I’m getting at. Not that I believe the McMichael’s aren’t racist. If this is true; than they definitely are.

I’m saying the data doesn’t say that at this time the country is more racist than its past.


The number of police shootings have nothing to do with the fact that racism is still alive and well in this country.

Again, there are active racists - KKK, people like the guys that killed Ahmad Aubrey, etc.

And there is passive racism, which is maybe more dangerous because it's a significantly higher population of people that think they may not be racist but still carry implicit or unconscious bias towards black people. These are the ones that think...."well I don't actively hate black people so I'm not part of the problem", and then do nothing to try to help solve the issues at hand.

I'm the first to admit I have these biases and I grew up with black friends. I work at a very large company with many black co-workers. I'm not perfect and if I don't actively try to recognize these problems in myself and then call out other people when I see them, I'm part of the problem.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
109036 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 12:53 pm to
I'm waiting for him to tell us someone hacked McMichael's social media, so we've gotta wait for the facts to come out.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/4/20 at 12:54 pm to
that county prosecutor who wrote the letter has to have severe tight butthole syndrome right now
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/4/20 at 12:55 pm to
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that county prosecutor who wrote the letter has to have severe tight butthole syndrome right now



NGL I borderline expect nothing of consequence to happen to these people. That would be a real injustice but I'll be shocked if they get anything more than a tepid slap on the wrist.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
44412 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 12:56 pm to
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Again, there are active racists - KKK, people like the guys that killed Ahmad Aubrey, etc.


I’ve never in my life met an active member of this Democratic Party institution.

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And there is passive racism, which is maybe more dangerous because it's a significantly higher population of people that think they may not be racist but still carry implicit or unconscious bias towards black people. These are the ones that think...."well I don't actively hate black people so I'm not part of the problem", and then do nothing to try to help solve the issues at hand.


Ahhh...the boogey man argument. Sounds a lot like what people did to an honorable man like Drew Brees yesterday. Scary if you think about it. And probably a dangerous view to have.

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I'm the first to admit I have these biases and I grew up with black friends. I work at a very large company with many black co-workers. I'm not perfect and if I don't actively try to recognize these problems in myself and then call out other people when I see them, I'm part of the problem.


I have biases, sure. I’m also nit racist for recognizing where the crime problem is. If you look at the data; there is no defending it. The numbers are all there. In black and white. There’s truth in math. Have a great day, everyone. Beautiful day in New Orleans. I choose to live life!
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
109036 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 12:58 pm to
Did the DOJ ever announce they were going to investigate that bunch?

I was reading this earlier and thought it was interesting:

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In 2018, Glynn County Police Lt. Robert Sasser killed his estranged wife and her friend, before taking his own life. The wife's family is now suing the police department because they say authorities failed to intervene before the murders.

Sasser had a well-documented history of problematic behavior. In 2010, he and another officer were involved in a brutal police shooting when they opened fire on a woman who had led the officers on a low-speed police chase. Sasser avoided punishment and remained on the force.


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In 2018, the police department also lost its certification with the state because it did not meet basic policing standards. A report by the International Association of Police Chiefs noted that only 12% of the police force was African American, even though African Americans make up 26% of the county's population.

In 2019, the county's drug task force was disbanded. A state-led investigation found extensive misconduct by Glynn County police officers, including one officer who had sex with a confidential informant.

It got worse yet. Glynn County Police Chief John Powell was indicted for perjury and witness tampering four days after the Arbery shooting. The police chief remains on administrative leave.


And they're all turning on each other:

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County commissioners are defending the police department. They blame the local district attorney's office for the decision not to arrest the father and son.

"I don't see how they expect the police to go cuff these men up when they have been told directly on Sunday and on Monday by the district attorneys' offices not to arrest anybody," Commissioner Peter Murphy told WJXT, a Jacksonville, Fla., TV channel.

But District Attorney Jackie Johnson said neither she nor her office advised the police on whether or not to make an arrest.

"That's so far from the truth. It's just a straight-up lie," she told radio station WIFO on Monday. She said the police and the county commission want to smear her, and that's why they are blaming her for lack of an arrest.


NPR link about Glynn County PD Corruption
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27900 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 12:58 pm to
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Or Mitt Romney, George Bush, John McCain, shite any white Republican.

But when Trump gets 15% of the black vote; it’s going to be a landslide.

Christ, dude. Just go get your snoball already.
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160203 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 1:00 pm to
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But when Trump gets 15% of the black vote; it’s going to be a landslide.



Yikes
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
10476 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 1:00 pm to
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The mcmichaels were a liberal plant who killed him to stick it to republicans?


Why else would they have murdered a black man in an election year?
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
41938 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 1:00 pm to
Ol Jackie personally vouched for McMichael senior when he failed to get the proper training TWICE during his tenure as an investigator.

Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
44412 posts
Posted on 6/4/20 at 1:01 pm to
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Why else would they have murdered a black man in an election year?


I know you aren’t smart enough to realize this but it’s only being blown out of proportion by the media and Twitter because it’s an election year!
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