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re: McKnight shooter released from custody...Cliffnotes of Normand press conf inside

Posted on 12/3/16 at 10:30 am to
Posted by TejasPete
Member since Dec 2013
1425 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 10:30 am to
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I disagree with your statement. There have been many armed car jackings in NOLA lately (at least one resulting in the murder of the driver). It only takes split second for someone to have you. I have seen someone set up where a person distracts the driver and others come up from behind on the passenger side. The driver had a firearm and the would-be criminals slammed the door and ran away.

For you to make fun of someone for wanting to defend themselves shows how naive you are at the current climate in places such as New Orleans.


Please. If you're riding around with a gun on your lap it is probably because you live a lame arse suburban life and want a feeling of power and excitement.

We've been at war for the last 15 years. Plenty of chances to go to combat. There are a lot of responsible gun owners out there but there are more white collar douchebags who want to feel like they are living on the edge.

Seriously if you're riding around with a gun on your lap you're dumb as frick and a pussy.
Posted by thegreatboudini
Member since Oct 2008
7186 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 10:31 am to
You can't afford a gun dog?
Posted by USEyourCURDS
Member since Apr 2016
12921 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 10:34 am to
FWIW I don't do that either but I am not going to hate on someone who does. It is there if they need to defend themselves or their family against an attacker. I don't get your combat reference. If someone is wielding the gun around that is way different.
Posted by PointsInCase
Member since Dec 2009
698 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 10:40 am to
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But you're stuck there with a guy standing inches from you in a threatening manner. Let's also not forget as someone stated, this began miles back.

Again, what's he going to do if you ignore him? He doesn't have a weapon. He's not using his vehicle as a weapon. Lock your door and roll the window up. If he breaks in, then of course you can defend yourself. It's called being a man, not a hothead pussy on a power trip.
Posted by thegreatboudini
Member since Oct 2008
7186 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 10:44 am to
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He doesn't have a weapon.


I must have missed the part where McKnight announced he didn't have a weapon.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 10:48 am to
What a badass tough guy you are.

Let's just be clear, if Pete trys to enter my vehicle while I'm boxed in at a red light and I feel my life is in danger, I'm shooting Pete.

If pete tries to rob me while I'm filling up my truck at a gas station, I'm shooting Pete.

There's your warning Pete, you badass motherfricker you.
Posted by LSUJML
Central
Member since May 2008
56230 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 10:56 am to
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But you're stuck there with a guy standing inches from you in a threatening manner. Let's also not forget as someone stated, this But you're stuck there with a guy standing inches from you in a threatening manner. Let's also not forget as someone stated, this began miles back.


Why didn't Gasser call the cops along the way?

There was an incident then drove for miles then shooting at intersection

Am I to believe that during the miles in between nothing happened?

Gasser had plenty of time to call the cops if he honestly feared for his life
He did have time to roll up his windows when JM parked on side of him




Posted by Breaux
Member since Nov 2005
4628 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 10:57 am to
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He was at the passenger side window


How do you know this? I'm seriously asking not questioning you. I've seen nothing saying which door he was at, only that McKnight was obviously out of his car and shots were fired from inside of Gassers. Not that it matters if he was trying to enter the vehicle, but are you basing this only on how the SUV was positioned?
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
22742 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 10:59 am to
quote:

Some are saying he may have been boxed in due to traffic
Ok, I am still having an issue with this being a justified event.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 11:01 am to
quote:

How do you know this? I'm seriously asking not questioning you. I've seen nothing saying which door he was at, only that McKnight was obviously out of his car and shots were fired from inside of Gassers. Not that it matters if he was trying to enter the vehicle, but are you basing this only on how the SUV was positioned?


It's been mentioned in several news reports as well as a video report posted in this thread that JM was positioned and shot while standing at the passenger window.
Posted by PointsInCase
Member since Dec 2009
698 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 11:05 am to
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I must have missed the part where McKnight announced he didn't have a weapon.

There is no evidence McKnight brandished or possessed any weaponry during the incident. More information could prove otherwise, of course.

Again, roll the window up and ignore the fool outside. Be the better man.
Posted by rsylve
Terrytown, LA
Member since Feb 2013
3972 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 11:08 am to
I believe it was said his body was pulled from between the vehicles to render aid. I may be incorrectly assuming there was no car on the left of them as they were in the right lane and shoulder. It also may be the case he stumbled to the rear.
This post was edited on 12/3/16 at 11:10 am
Posted by TexasTiger1185
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2011
13168 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 11:10 am to
I'd be pretty scared if a guy got out of his car at a traffic light and was coming at me. What could his intent be other than to hurt me?
Posted by geauxtigers
Biloxi Mississippi
Member since Nov 2003
2586 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 11:11 am to
so white man shoots black man = riot. black man kills black man all day everyday working as intended?
Posted by GRIZZ
Morgan City
Member since Nov 2009
6236 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 11:15 am to
Was there every any mention of part of JM's finger being found inside the car? Because if he did in fact reach in and then get shot, finger fragments would likely be in the car which would then build a stronger case for Gasser's reason for using lethal force.
This post was edited on 12/3/16 at 11:16 am
Posted by PointsInCase
Member since Dec 2009
698 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 11:18 am to
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I'd be pretty scared if a guy got out of his car at a traffic light and was coming at me. What could his intent be other than to hurt me?

Verbally assault you? Damage your car? Steal something from you?

Don't get me wrong, I'd be scared too. But men don't shoot because they are scared.
This post was edited on 12/3/16 at 11:20 am
Posted by logjamming
Member since Feb 2014
8313 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 11:19 am to
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If he breaks in, then of course you can defend yourself. It's called being a man, not a hothead pussy on a power trip.


How do you know he wasn't trying to break into the car? At what point is it ok to shoot? Once the door is open ? When the window is smashed? When he's actually in the car? I don't know, nor do I pretend to know. but to speak in black and white terms like that is foolish.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
95604 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 11:20 am to
quote:

Ok, I am still having an issue with this being a justified event.


Me, too. I still think we need all the facts, but the cops obviously considered factors we don't know at this point. As described, seems like at least something is warranted here.

However, I will relay a story - coincidentally, it went down in the:

quote:

ninthward


We were going to pick up some furniture in Arabi at Mrs. Midnight's grandmother's home. We rented a van in BR to transport it round trip. Mrs. Midnight was driving the empty van and I was following in Midnight 1 (a 1988 Pontiac Grand Am, garnet red, baw) - well, we got caught up in some stop and go traffic. A couple of individuals stepped out of one of those corner stores they used to have down there before Katrina. Neither had shoes, 1 had no shirt. They're looking at the traffic and they're staring really hard at the van with I'm sure was an oblivious Mrs. Midnight. I saw the 2 of them hatch the silent plot and take a couple of steps towards the van.

Now, maybe they were just going to chat her up. Maybe they were going to ask for name and number. I don't know. But, I was rolling the window down and if they had grabbed the door handle or reached into the van, I would have blown them both to Mars - that's a fact. About the time they took 2 steps, the traffic started moving and we drove by. I gave them a big smile as I was rolling the window back up.

I doubt they ever knew anything was amiss.
This post was edited on 12/3/16 at 11:21 am
Posted by TexasTiger1185
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2011
13168 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 11:21 am to
Well that's just stupid. At what point in your world does a man shoot someone?
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
182185 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 11:21 am to
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Please. If you're riding around with a gun on your lap it is probably because you live a lame arse suburban life and want a feeling of power and excitement.

We've been at war for the last 15 years. Plenty of chances to go to combat. There are a lot of responsible gun owners out there but there are more white collar douchebags who want to feel like they are living on the edge.

Seriously if you're riding around with a gun on your lap you're dumb as frick and a pussy.



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