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re: Matt Walsh monologue about the loss of the “mono-culture”
Posted on 10/28/25 at 8:39 pm to burger bearcat
Posted on 10/28/25 at 8:39 pm to burger bearcat
I was saying this to my wife the other day but I never it connected it to the iPhone. He's 100% right.
The only thing I can think of that we all have in common now is that we all know who the president is. We all live completely separate lives. It sucks. I miss music and film specifically. Him mentioning calling up radio stations to request a song took me back.
The only thing I can think of that we all have in common now is that we all know who the president is. We all live completely separate lives. It sucks. I miss music and film specifically. Him mentioning calling up radio stations to request a song took me back.
This post was edited on 10/28/25 at 8:42 pm
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Posted on 10/28/25 at 9:04 pm to beaverfever
iPhone, social media, and a major recession in a pretty small window.
Changed our culture, the way we interact, and how we entertain ourselves.
Changed our culture, the way we interact, and how we entertain ourselves.
Posted on 10/29/25 at 6:07 am to beaverfever
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The only thing I can think of that we all have in common now is that we all know who the president is. We all live completely separate lives. It sucks.
I was walking around in a downtown urban area recently, and sometimes I like to just intentionally turned my phone off or even leave it in the car. Just to get a little bit of how it used to feel to go out in public 25 years ago.
Sadly every single person (other than homeless and drug addicts) I passed was glued to their phone even as they walked down the sidewalk. People of different ethnicities, cultures, demographics, ages, interests… I assume all glued to their own little unique algorithm, watching some content most everyone else doesn’t even know about or even know it exists
This seems to be the reality, and with AI it will just get worse as AI will be able to uniquely curate content for every individual person to live completely in their own individual cultural silo from one another.
This post was edited on 10/29/25 at 6:27 am
Posted on 10/29/25 at 6:35 am to burger bearcat
Just look at music….
It’s instant garbage….
The days of bands like Zeppelin, Queen, Aerosmith, The Eagles, Skynyrd, Rush, are long gone….
It’s instant garbage….
The days of bands like Zeppelin, Queen, Aerosmith, The Eagles, Skynyrd, Rush, are long gone….
This post was edited on 10/29/25 at 6:37 am
Posted on 10/29/25 at 6:48 am to jimmy the leg
a. message boards existed long before that. This isn't the first, second, third, or 4th message board I have been on (that journey started din the late 90s)
b. his date picking was arbitrary and way late. The last major monoculture event was 911, in the early 00s.
b. his date picking was arbitrary and way late. The last major monoculture event was 911, in the early 00s.
Posted on 10/29/25 at 6:57 am to Violent Hip Swivel
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Mike Tyson was more like a mythical figure. No Youtube, and ESPN could only show still shots of pay per view fights and couldn't even show video.
Me and my buddies in elementary school would talk about Tyson, even though none of our moms would let us get the pay per view and nobody actually saw him perform.
There will never be another athlete with the mystique of Mike Tyson because there's too much exposure and too much oversaturation of famous athletes imo.
This is actually a great point. The metaculture was largely built on a lot of collective ignorance and lack of information/data sharing. When all of that information is accessible by basically everyone instantly, things get analyzed much more in depth across the board.
In addition, I'll add gatekeeping dying as a major development. Due to these accessibility issues, the monoculture was given whatever information and analysis the chosen gatekeepers (typically news and media) permitted. This meant that independent analysis/thought was less present and we were all NPCs fed talking points by the chosen few.
If you want 2 great areas where this point shine its sports and movies.
The discussion around sports has evolved to a great degree thanks to this access of information and higher expectations of rhetoric quality. The age of "barbershop talk" is almost dead because of the advancement of data/analytics and rhetoric around sports. You strip away that mythology (along with gatekeeping by media) and you lose the monoculture.
Similarly, movies have had similar progress in data dissemination and rhetoric, largely due to the increase in accessibility. As a person who used to collect more rare and inaccessible movies on VHS in the 90s, I can tell you it was not easy to even SEE tons of movies I read about online. The explosion of DVDs helped a great deal and then streaming blew it wide open.
Similar patterns exist in plenty of other major social interest areas like music, politics (this really ramped up 2014-2016), etc.
It's somewhat ironic that a guy like Matt Walsh whose existence as a somebody is based on all of these post-monoculture variables is promoting a culture that would kill his career and make him an irrelevant JAG. I didn't watch the segment, so I'm assuming he doesn't include this? Props if he does.
Posted on 10/29/25 at 7:13 am to L5UT1ger
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Families/groups don’t watch tv. They have individual screens to watch different things.
Yep.
Wife and I try to have a series going that we watch together a few nights a week. That is currently The Bear.
Then we try to have a movie night to involve everyone. My son and I watch cop videos on youtube a good bit.
We do watch lots of sports together.
Posted on 10/29/25 at 7:17 am to Violent Hip Swivel
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Political tribalism is clinically retarded.
No, it's just politics. People don't like Taylor Swift for a myriad of reasons. Politics is possibly way down in the list.
If tribalism is being tired and pissed off at being around people I view as political idiots and ideological enemies, then happily count me in.
Posted on 10/29/25 at 7:29 am to SlowFlowPro
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This is actually a great point. The metaculture was largely built on a lot of collective ignorance and lack of information/data sharing. When all of that information is accessible by basically everyone instantly, things get analyzed much more in depth across the board. In addition, I'll add gatekeeping dying as a major development. Due to these accessibility issues, the monoculture was given whatever information and analysis the chosen gatekeepers (typically news and media) permitted. This meant that independent analysis/thought was less present and we were all NPCs fed talking points by the chosen few. If you want 2 great areas where this point shine its sports and movies. The discussion around sports has evolved to a great degree thanks to this access of information and higher expectations of rhetoric quality. The age of "barbershop talk" is almost dead because of the advancement of data/analytics and rhetoric around sports. You strip away that mythology (along with gatekeeping by media) and you lose the monoculture. Similarly, movies have had similar progress in data dissemination and rhetoric, largely due to the increase in accessibility. As a person who used to collect more rare and inaccessible movies on VHS in the 90s, I can tell you it was not easy to even SEE tons of movies I read about online. The explosion of DVDs helped a great deal and then streaming blew it wide open. Similar patterns exist in plenty of other major social interest areas like music, politics (this really ramped up 2014-2016), etc. It's somewhat ironic that a guy like Matt Walsh whose existence as a somebody is based on all of these post-monoculture variables is promoting a culture that would kill his career and make him an irrelevant JAG. I didn't watch the segment, so I'm assuming he doesn't include this? Props if he does.
Maybe you should try to refrain from being self absorbed blow hard stupid frick for a day or two. Try to act like you don't know everything and fight off the urge to smell your own farts. Do it for the sake of humanity, and my eyes.
Posted on 10/29/25 at 7:31 am to burger bearcat
along these lines, MSNBC and CNN refused to show the President of the United States when making official statements during his first presidency (maybe still) to the country because "He lies". They said they would watch for you and tell you what was said, after filtering out "the lies".
Parts of the country are being intentionally kept from hearing the leader of the free world.
Remember when the American flag was a symbol of racism and liberals would freak out if they saw one on a truck or on the beach? (ignoring the fact that these same people are suddenly self-proclaimed patriots for a No Kings rally)
Shared stories, leaders (of music, movies, politics) are what defines us as a country. We are not in good shape, even before factoring in the import of America-haters over the last four years.
Parts of the country are being intentionally kept from hearing the leader of the free world.
Remember when the American flag was a symbol of racism and liberals would freak out if they saw one on a truck or on the beach? (ignoring the fact that these same people are suddenly self-proclaimed patriots for a No Kings rally)
Shared stories, leaders (of music, movies, politics) are what defines us as a country. We are not in good shape, even before factoring in the import of America-haters over the last four years.
Posted on 10/29/25 at 7:36 am to Violent Hip Swivel
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Mike Tyson was more like a mythical figure. No Youtube, and ESPN could only show still shots of pay per view fights and couldn't even show video. Me and my buddies in elementary school would talk about Tyson, even though none of our moms would let us get the pay per view and nobody actually saw him perform.
Did you even SportsCenter, baw? They most certainly showed clips. I saw them.
This post was edited on 10/29/25 at 7:54 am
Posted on 10/29/25 at 7:39 am to LSUballs
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Maybe you should try to refrain from being self absorbed blow hard stupid frick for a day or two.
I wouldn't know anything about being a "stupid frick"
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Try to act like you don't know everything and fight off the urge to smell your own farts. Do it for the sake of humanity, and my eyes.
What are your specific issues with what I said within the context of OP's thread and the post to which I replied?
Posted on 10/29/25 at 8:22 am to burger bearcat
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a lot of Millennials and GenXers kind of feel is missing from the modern American Culture.
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thinking about something like “The Fresh Prince of Bel Air”. Everyone knows the intro song to that show and memorizes the lyrics, or knows who Kosmo Kramer is.
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Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, the early 90s Cowboys, etc t
What an old man shouting at clouds post. This is the equivalent of saying, “why don’t people make good music anymore” and talk about Queen and Led Zepplin, etc.
Culture has been shaped by the younger generations for several decades now and as you get older, you get more out of touch with pop culture. Kids have plenty of shared experiences, it’s just that you’re not part of it. Roblox, 6-7, Beans, etc. are things kids relate to that I have heard, but I can’t relate to them. Mahomes, Josh Allen, LeBron, The Rock, Taylor Swift, etc. etc. are athletes and stars that kids know about.
Posted on 10/29/25 at 8:26 am to Suntiger
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What an old man shouting at clouds post. This is the equivalent of saying, “why don’t people make good music anymore” and talk about Queen and Led Zepplin, etc.
ITT
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The days of bands like Zeppelin, Queen, Aerosmith, The Eagles, Skynyrd, Rush, are long gone…
Posted on 10/29/25 at 8:29 am to SlowFlowPro
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The last major monoculture event was 911
A shattered nation longs to care about stupid bullshite again - The Onion
Posted on 10/29/25 at 8:39 am to burger bearcat
I just made it through 3min of some bozo going on and on about a bunch of fricking movies?
Who wants to listen to 30min of that
Take a lap
Who wants to listen to 30min of that
Take a lap
Posted on 10/29/25 at 8:45 am to Violent Hip Swivel
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Taylor Swift should be America's Sweetheart, but she leans left and now we have grown men with no daughters spending way too much time thinking about Taylor Swift and hating on Taylor Swift.
Taylor swift is a man
Posted on 10/29/25 at 8:50 am to Pettifogger
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Lebron, Patrick Mahomes, etc.
Without getting into the merits of them, I don't think they're particularly close culturally
LeBron is. He's just as big as anyone. The "decision" was a huge cultural moment.
I would say Brady over Mahomes
Posted on 10/29/25 at 8:59 am to Suntiger
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What an old man shouting at clouds post. This is the equivalent of saying, “why don’t people make good music anymore” and talk about Queen and Led Zepplin, etc.
Clearly the point went over your head.
This is not old man longing for nostalgia shite. It’s the very unique reality of the “silo cultures” we experience. And it isn’t even delineated by generations or age. It’s all kinds of niche demographics and mini-sub-cultures engaging in their own individual experiences. In some cases people are literally experiencing their own individual culture by themselves (AI will make this worse)
There is no equivalent to MASH, Michael Jackson’s Thriller album, Seinfeld, 1998 Home run chase, the 1992 Dream Team, Home Alone, “I did not have Sex with that Woman”, “Tear down that wall”, “I am not a crook”, “life is like a box of chocolates”… there’s nothing like these moments today
If you were to ask your average High School student about the shows they like or music they like, or celebrities, etc. They would likely name a bunch of people you have no idea that even exist. Yet these same individuals could have a 100 million followers. It’s just a strange experience, and I think most people, especially those who came of age in the 90s/00s get what we are saying without trying to be some “Akchtually” contrarian D-bag
This isn’t even about saying how those things were so great. The point is it was a generally shared culture. You clearly missed this, and went off on some unrelated tangent.
This post was edited on 10/29/25 at 9:02 am
Posted on 10/29/25 at 9:09 am to burger bearcat
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This is not old man longing for nostalgia shite. I
It's an older Millennial longing for "nostalgia shite".
Hence his temporal framing. He framed a perfect window for Millennial cultural apex and not the monoculture apex. The monoculture was largely dead by that point. It just didn't seem that way to him because that was his age 14-22 window (when youth culture develops and matters the most, basically).
I'm three years older than him so I get it, but I'm both honest and not bound to incite emotions for financial purposes like he is (not sure of his sincerity on this one).
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There is no equivalent to MASH, Michael Jackson’s Thriller album, Seinfeld, 1998 Home run chase, the 1992 Dream Team, Home Alone, “I did not have Sex with that Woman”, “Tear down that wall”, “I am not a crook”, “life is like a box of chocolates”… there’s nothing like these moments today
There are similar moments but you're too old to appreciate them (again, not in that 14-22 window) AND see my post for how the proliferation of access and information has just expanded culture more than replaced a monoculture. The monoculture was fake, largely, created by lack of access and gatekeeping.
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If you were to ask your average High School student about the shows they like or music they like, or celebrities, etc. They would likely name a bunch of people you have no idea that even exist. Y
Because you're old now.
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and I think most people, especially those who came of age in the 90s/00s get what we are saying without trying to be some “Akchtually” contrarian D-bag
You're just coming of the age of nostalgic delusion and we're explaining that to you.
The monoculture was already dead a few years before the mid-00s. The fact he claims that's the apex of it shows his nostalgic delusion.
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