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re: Massive security fail on part of City of NO. And DHS as well.
Posted on 1/1/25 at 1:51 pm to LeGrosChat
Posted on 1/1/25 at 1:51 pm to LeGrosChat
Because we are still stick with a demoncrap president for a few more weeks.
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Posted on 1/1/25 at 1:51 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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Bollards should extend to the sidewalk area as well.
Maybe we should put turnstiles in.
Posted on 1/1/25 at 1:51 pm to fightin tigers
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Meauxjeaux would just harp that those sidewalks didn't high enough kerbs.
Worst kind of people. Saying "it's so easy" the day after
Read the post directly before yours. lol.
You know me so well, small mind.
Posted on 1/1/25 at 1:52 pm to Meauxjeaux
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No one views Canal as a pedestrian street during special events. Bourbon is completely different.
Have you ever been on canal on a busy night in downtown New Orleans? ESPECIALLY at the foot of bourbon? Someone better tell the hundreds of people to view it differently.
This post was edited on 1/1/25 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 1/1/25 at 1:53 pm to Meauxjeaux
How much space should be between the bollards to be sufficient?
Posted on 1/1/25 at 1:53 pm to shutterspeed
quote:well
Logistically speaking, how do major pedestrian-only areas get supplies in and out? Legitimately don’t know. Can only imagine the process of having to keep heavy-traffic tourist venues—like you’d find on a Bourbon Street-stocked up at all times.
Depending upon the age of the city tunnels are used to transport goods throughout the day without interfering with traffic
Handcarts can be used which also presents a problem with terrorism but it can be checked.... It costs a lot personnel, time
But restaurants with perishable foods you can only stock up during off hours and that's just what they were doing
It's scary it is if you present choke points with technology facial recognition bomb-sniffing dogs nuclear sniffing handheld devices
You can inhibit but can not prevent
In my past life I worked for an agency responsible for the stadiums in Harris County Houston and was in the command center during an event.. we can track a lot ,, but can't stop everything or even enough
Posted on 1/1/25 at 1:54 pm to St Augustine
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Have you ever been on canal on a busy night in
No meauxjeaux is hyper focused on Bourbon because of this event.
Needs to blame a failure on NOPD because the terrorist is dead.
Posted on 1/1/25 at 1:54 pm to Meauxjeaux
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No excuse
Even if the bollards had been deployed, you can't secure the sidewalk. This was obviously scouted and found to be a vulnerability.
Posted on 1/1/25 at 1:54 pm to shutterspeed
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Logistically speaking, how do major pedestrian-only areas get supplies in and out? Legitimately don’t know. Can only imagine the process of having to keep heavy-traffic tourist venues—like you’d find on a Bourbon Street—stocked up at all times.
For years now NOLA government abd police have wanted to make that part of the quarter 100 percent pedestrian and they have fought constantly by hotel restaurant and bar owners who want their supplies to have easy drive uo access.
Posted on 1/1/25 at 1:54 pm to fightin tigers
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Meauxjeaux would just harp that those sidewalks didn't high enough kerbs. Worst kind of people. Saying "it's so easy" the day after
Blame the people being critical all you want, but Times Square and NYPD have the playbook down on how to lockdown vehicles for mass gatherings.
This is likely just a trial run for the Super Bowl. Hope NOLA learns something because the snack bars are licking their chops if we don’t learn for next month.
Posted on 1/1/25 at 1:57 pm to fightin tigers
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How much space should be between the bollards to be sufficient?
Retractable in the street, fixed on the sidewalk.
This is too easy. Except for NOLA
Posted on 1/1/25 at 1:57 pm to Meauxjeaux
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Thank you for making my point.
It’s not a very good one as one, nothing like this has happened before, and two, bollards on a sidewalk is incredibly rare.
Posted on 1/1/25 at 1:57 pm to fightin tigers
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How much space should be between the bollards to be sufficient?
Enough the block a car. Probably 5 feet
Posted on 1/1/25 at 1:57 pm to Meauxjeaux
Alright. Those are retractable right?
Also they never break.
Also, again, there are bollards right there
Also they never break.
Also, again, there are bollards right there
This post was edited on 1/1/25 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 1/1/25 at 1:57 pm to Meauxjeaux
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Retractable in the street, fixed on the sidewalk.
You’d hit water pretty quickly lol
Posted on 1/1/25 at 1:58 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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Bollards should extend to the sidewalk area as well. What a shitty excuse.
They could be on the sidewalk.
Hell, we have them here on the sidewalk in one of the parks we walk in to keep people from driving down the large paths.
Also had ones at the Biltmore that we visited in the walking path up to the lawn in front of the house. They were also on a system where they move up and down to allow the house’s trolleys to drop you off directly in front of the house.
Posted on 1/1/25 at 1:59 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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Enough the block a car. Probably 5 feet
Sidewalks are about 5' wide.
Posted on 1/1/25 at 2:00 pm to SixthAndBarone
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Have you seen the video? There was a police car blocking bourbon. Dude jumped onto the sidewalk. Armchair quarterbacking says yes, sidewalks should have been blocked, but I don’t consider that a failure.
I think for you and I spitballing security - sure
But last night they had 300+ NOPD and both state and federal support out around the quarter. The neutral ground was lined with marked and unmarked cars, every block had several cars in the actual parking spots and officers were just looping up and down canal. This wasn’t taking a normal Tuesday night for granted. It was major high level security being enacted and they kind of missed a pretty major/obvious hole if protecting against terrorism and not just doing baseline police work
This post was edited on 1/1/25 at 2:01 pm
Posted on 1/1/25 at 2:01 pm to GreenRockTiger
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He went on the sidewalk, moron
If the gap is big enough to drive an F150 through then the gap is too big. Bollards can and should be installed on the sidewalk
Posted on 1/1/25 at 2:02 pm to fightin tigers
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Also, again, there are bollards right there
We know. In the street.
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