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re: Mass shooting on Vegas Strip discussion

Posted on 10/3/17 at 6:00 pm to
Posted by Signal Soldier
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Posted on 10/3/17 at 6:00 pm to
Link?
Posted by gatorrocks
Lake Mary, FL
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 10/3/17 at 6:00 pm to
quote:

so you went from "they'll just make their own bumpstock" to "they don't even need a bumpstock"


EXACTLY!!!

It doesn't matter!
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
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Posted on 10/3/17 at 6:01 pm to
He says he believes she's in Tokyo. That was yesterday.

They're 100% sure she's in the Philippines as of a couple hours ago.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 10/3/17 at 6:02 pm to
vast majority of mass murderers in recent memory only began to learn about weaponry once they decided they were gonna kill people. Most bought off the shelf and used as is. Now we have a rich guy who used a bumpstock, and mowed down 59 people. I think it's pretty reasonable for someone to say "wait, I though fully auto was illegal. Doesn't this thing make it fully auto? Maybe we should make that illegal so that it's harder to accomplish shooting into concert crowds with basically an automatic weapon"

as opposed to "well they can make one of them there bumpstocks out of aluminum or wood, so what's the point?"

just a ridiculous line of thinking that follows no logic once you get past that statement.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 10/3/17 at 6:03 pm to
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He says he believes she's in Tokyo. That was yesterday.

They're 100% sure she's in the Philippines as of a couple hours ago.
With he name out there wouldn't it be hard for her to fly from Tokyo to the Philippines?
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 10/3/17 at 6:04 pm to
well now someone with means HAS used a bumpstock, so it is logical to make them illegal, because they make semi autos fully auto. There is no sound logic otherwise. You can't just flip flop on your stance and pretend it makes sense.

Should we allow people to murder simply because murders are gonna happen anyways? Your logic would lead me to believe you think that should be exactly the case. Prove me wrong.
Posted by Teauxler
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 10/3/17 at 6:04 pm to
I know I know.. trying to find it
Posted by gatorrocks
Lake Mary, FL
Member since Oct 2007
13998 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 6:04 pm to
quote:

wait, I though fully auto was illegal. Doesn't this thing make it fully auto? Maybe we should make that illegal so that it's harder to accomplish shooting into concert crowds with basically an automatic weapon

That's a fair statement. If you think it will help prevent crowds of people being mowed down.

That is, until you remember.

Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 10/3/17 at 6:06 pm to
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Just getting around to watching his brother's interview.. my goodness why is this guy so dang defensive? He seems nuts himself.

LINK


At first, I thought nothing of it. Now, after the 10th time seeing him, he seems nervous, like he had an inkling of something.
Posted by gatorrocks
Lake Mary, FL
Member since Oct 2007
13998 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 6:06 pm to
quote:

well now someone with means HAS used a bumpstock, so it is logical to make them illegal, because they make semi autos fully auto. There is no sound logic otherwise. You can't just flip flop on your stance and pretend it makes sense. Should we allow people to murder simply because murders are gonna happen anyways? Your logic would lead me to believe you think that should be exactly the case. Prove me wrong.


Go ahead. Make it illegal. I don't care. Seriously.

But there were mass murders before bump stocks and there will be after.

It literally doesn't make a difference.

If you think it will prevent them, then... LINK
This post was edited on 10/3/17 at 6:07 pm
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/3/17 at 6:07 pm to
Exactly.

And I'm not familiar with how prevalent copycat crimes are. But I can't help but think there are some potentially troubled/evil folks going, "what the hell? It's THAT easy to make a semi auto rifle pretty much fully auto?!"

I've been around guns my whole life. And own them. And I had NEVER heard of a bump stock until this POS mowed people down with them.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
91801 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 6:08 pm to
quote:

With he name out there wouldn't it be hard for her to fly from Tokyo to the Philippines?
Yeah, but I don't think she was ever in Tokyo.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72169 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 6:08 pm to
your logic is scattered. No one is saying we should just ban everything that is capable of killing dozens of people. The point is that this particular addition is a workaround to something that is already illegal.
Posted by gatorrocks
Lake Mary, FL
Member since Oct 2007
13998 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 6:08 pm to
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And I had NEVER heard of a bump stock until this POS mowed people down with them.

Me too. Never knew they existed.

Bet Omar Mateen didn't know about them either.
Posted by FLTech
he/won
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 10/3/17 at 6:08 pm to
NOT SAFE FOR WORK VIDEO - Pretty Disgusting. Do not watch this video with kids in the room

Watch YouTube Video Before It Gets Removed
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72169 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 6:09 pm to
quote:

But there were mass murders before bump stocks and there will be after.



No one is fricking denying this. Christ, you are dense as a doorknob.

you don't just say "frick it" because bad things already happen

again, do you think we should legalize murder because people are gonna murder anyways? Your logic doesn't hold water or lead anywhere once you get past "it won't help, people gonna kill each other anyways"

no shite, Sherlock.
This post was edited on 10/3/17 at 6:12 pm
Posted by gatorrocks
Lake Mary, FL
Member since Oct 2007
13998 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 6:10 pm to
quote:

Watch YouTube Video Before It Gets Removed


Holy frick...
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
91801 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 6:10 pm to
quote:

That is, until you remember.
And maybe he gets infinitely more rounds off if he's firing a weapon capable of reaching 680 rounds per minute.
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
31604 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 6:10 pm to
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At about 25:00 he says she's in Tokyo


He said Philippines a whole bunch today.

That is another WTF piece of misinformation. Is someone telling him to keep to the Tokyo response for now for whatever reason, and he keeps forgetting?
Posted by gatorrocks
Lake Mary, FL
Member since Oct 2007
13998 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 6:11 pm to
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Christ, you are dense as a doorknob.

Two way street, brother.

The goal to ban bump-stocks is to prevent mass murder, correct?
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