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re: Mass shooting at the Grand Theatre, Lafayette. Confirmed by KATC
Posted on 7/24/15 at 8:49 am to quail man
Posted on 7/24/15 at 8:49 am to quail man
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again, so it's now OK that it happened because the guy is insane? i know i'm putting words in your mouth here, but it's the same shite every time. mass shooting, white guy is insane, he probably would have gotten access to guns anyway, oh well. rinse, wash, repeat.
it's not "OK"
the question is how you can possibly regulate outlier individuals who are crazy doing crazy things in a MASSIVE country of 300M people
when you sit back and look at all the data of all of the people in this country, this is a small, random data point
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Posted on 7/24/15 at 8:49 am to dewster
RIP Maci Breaux.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 8:51 am to SlowFlowPro
Yup
Posted on 7/24/15 at 8:51 am to CocoLoco
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hould we refer to him as a terrorist, although he's not?
why not? he can't be a terrorist because he's white? a terrorist is "a person who uses terrorism in the pursuit of political aims." isn't that purportedly what he did?
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No one is saying anything is ok here. In fact it's the complete opposite.
i'm not saying anyone said it's ok. i'm saying people say there's nothing we could have done about it. big difference.
eta: i did say "OK" and that was wrongly worded, so i'm editing my other post.
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Bringing up these racial and political agendas over and over are ridiculous.
the only "agenda" i have, if any, is the importance of getting appropriate treatment and funding for mentally ill people
This post was edited on 7/24/15 at 8:53 am
Posted on 7/24/15 at 8:51 am to quail man
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again, so it's now OK that it happened because the guy is insane?
Who said it was "OK"?
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i know i'm putting words in your mouth here, but it's the same shite every time. mass shooting, white guy is insane, he probably would have gotten access to guns anyway, oh well. rinse, wash, repeat.
Perhaps you should take your conspiracy theories somewhere else.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 8:52 am to BilJ
I never ceased to be amazed at how stupid people can be.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 8:52 am to dewster
Piers Morgan already has an article blaming jindal, saying "the blood is on your NRA-approved hands." It's sad that people have to politicize a tragedy like this to push their agenda.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 8:53 am to quail man
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the dialogue about mental illness is that it's completely underfunded and the access to resources are sparse
Right, that's what I meant. I don't mean "locked up" in prison. I mean we need State funded sanitariums again. With more funding etc. If we put a fifth of the funding we put into prisons into mental health, I think the problem may be mostly solved.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 8:55 am to quail man
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why not? he can't be a terrorist because he's white? a terrorist is "a person who uses terrorism in the pursuit of political aims." isn't that purportedly what he did?
I have a feeling a lot of these post are going to disappear like a lot of our gun control posts did.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 8:55 am to YOURADHERE
I met Jillian a couple of times shopping at Red Arrow. She was very genuine and a big part of the Lafayette community. She played in a band called the Figs. You see those t shirts she designed everywhere around Lafayette. Jillian will be missed dearly.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 8:56 am to Ingeniero
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It's sad that people have to politicize a tragedy like this to push their agenda.
It happens every damned time.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 8:56 am to LesMiles BFF
I doubt this was politically motivated any more than Aurora was. Just because he has some loony posts online doesn't make him a terrorist.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 8:57 am to zelman
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If we put a fifth of the funding we put into prisons into mental health, I think the problem may be mostly solved.
on an aside. i see on FB today many liberal people i know (who always talk about how mental illness leads to people getting into the criminal system) talking about this issue today. they have thrown that "mental health" issue aside and now just target guns.
i agree that we have an issue with how we identify, treat, and regulate people with mental illness. but there isn't some easy solution. for example, is everyone OK with making people with ADHD illegal? that's a mental illness that requires extreme medication.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 8:59 am to quail man
That's not how you initially went about saying so.
The post I responded to sounded like the many posts on twitter I've read making it about race and that nothing would be done
The post I responded to sounded like the many posts on twitter I've read making it about race and that nothing would be done
Posted on 7/24/15 at 9:00 am to quail man
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the only "agenda" i have, if any, is the importance of getting appropriate treatment and funding for mentally ill people
Good point, and everyone is on the same page with that one. You always address the root cause. Otherwise, people can generate so many other problems by attacking the symptoms and not the problem.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 9:01 am to Ingeniero
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Piers Morgan already has an article blaming jindal, saying "the blood is on your NRA-approved hands." It's sad that people have to politicize a tragedy like this to push their agenda.
Well, Morgan likely only knows about as much as we do about this tragedy....except that he's a colossal jackass with a huge twitter following. All we know is a name and some social media postings (that may or may not be the shooter's) that were clearly made by an unstable individual.
Sorry for all of you who knew the victims. I've spent a lot of time in Lafayette and I hate to see this happen to the good people who live there. I hope we get answers.
This post was edited on 7/24/15 at 9:05 am
Posted on 7/24/15 at 9:02 am to zelman
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Right, that's what I meant. I don't mean "locked up" in prison. I mean we need State funded sanitariums again. With more funding etc. If we put a fifth of the funding we put into prisons into mental health, I think the problem may be mostly solved.
i mean, having state funded sanitariums would be a nice start. it wouldn't solve everything or even "most" of everything, but it's a start. the sad thing is that there's actually a very large number of people training to be psychologists but not enough positions to fill them all. in fact, only like 78% of doctoral students last year matched for APA internships. that number should be closer to 95%. yet there's also a large number of people who still cannot get access to treatment. so we have individuals trained to treat but just not the positions available for them to do so.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 9:03 am to CocoLoco
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That's not how you initially went about saying so.
it was poorly worded and really a crappy ad hominem attack originally, so i edited it a bit. read my other posts, and i think those are a bit more well articulated
Posted on 7/24/15 at 9:05 am to roguetiger15
quote:--Patton Oswald.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE spotlight the victims the helpers the EMTs IGNORE THE SHOOTER treat him like the insect he is PLEASE #Louisiana
Posted on 7/24/15 at 9:05 am to quail man
People who are not medicine compliant and have a history of violent or dangerous behavior NEED to be locked up when they are cycling into manic episodes.
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