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re: Mass shooting at Atlanta area high school
Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:22 pm to AwgustaDawg
Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:22 pm to AwgustaDawg
You admit to not being a medical professional, but start spouting things several pages back about what is and isn’t a way of treating mental illness. Then you start comparing gender dysphoria to cancer and gangrene. That’s not exactly apples to apples.
Then you go on to say that you trust our medical professionals. As is the case in any profession, there’s good doctors, and then there are shitty doctors. There was a recent thread about a surgeon mistakenly removing a man’s liver.
To me, there are some non-negotiable issues when it comes to mental illness. Kids have no business altering their bodies to fulfill some fantasy.
Then you go on to say that you trust our medical professionals. As is the case in any profession, there’s good doctors, and then there are shitty doctors. There was a recent thread about a surgeon mistakenly removing a man’s liver.
To me, there are some non-negotiable issues when it comes to mental illness. Kids have no business altering their bodies to fulfill some fantasy.
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Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:24 pm to AwgustaDawg
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the stick
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the stick
frick you solely for typing this.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:26 pm to LNCHBOX
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If we trusted our pediatrician, we wouldn't have known our son had autism til much later. He's thriving now because we pushed back on his ped's initial recommendation and got him into treatment much earlier.
Had we trusted our daughter's pediatrician, we would not have caught her torticollis as early as we did.
Blindly trusting anyone is never a good idea.
ETA: And these are good pediatricians at good practices.
SO you did not blindly trust the people who eventually treated your son? You were there with them every second of treatment and directing them? Sounds like you probably did not need them at all given your expertise in treating your child's autism.
Its a wonder you needed a pediatrician at all to diagnose your daughter's condition, again since you do not trust medical professionals unless, of course they agree with your knowledge and experience. Why bother with medical professionals at all with your kids, you are batting .1000 while they are batting .000. And yet you claim these are good doctors in good practices. One could surmise that it might be your judgement that is in question and not the credentials of the medical professionals involved. Just saying.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:27 pm to AwgustaDawg
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SO you did not blindly trust the people who eventually treated your son? You were there with them every second of treatment and directing them? Sounds like you probably did not need them at all given your expertise in treating your child's autism.
I bet this made a lot more sense in your head. Should have kept it there.
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Its a wonder you needed a pediatrician at all to diagnose your daughter's condition, again since you do not trust medical professionals unless, of course they agree with your knowledge and experience. Why bother with medical professionals at all with your kids, you are batting .1000 while they are batting .000. And yet you claim these are good doctors in good practices. One could surmise that it might be your judgement that is in question and not the credentials of the medical professionals involved. Just saying.
I'd be embarrassed to announce to the internet how stupid I was with logic like this.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:28 pm to AwgustaDawg
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AwgustaDawg
You've lost what little was left of your mind.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:29 pm to LegendInMyMind
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frick you solely for typing this.
The stick the stick the stick....
triggered much?
A person who suffers from irrational fears is clinically mentally ill. It is known as anxiety disorder. Treatment can help. You should look into it.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:30 pm to nicholastiger
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the fact that you had FBI and local police already on this a year ago, it's a failure on all levels
he should have been removed from that school last year
Potential school shooters are lower on the FBI's priority list than parents disrupting school board meetings.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:31 pm to AwgustaDawg
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triggered much?
Not triggered. Just laughing at a moron who is acting like a child.....which isn't surprising because you always have.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:33 pm to AwgustaDawg
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The stick the stick the stick....
Are you 10 and home from school sick?
Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:34 pm to AwgustaDawg
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Yes, If our pediatrician recommended it I would.
Wow.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:36 pm to AwgustaDawg
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Your perception of me is as meaningful as that of an oak tree....I could care less.
How much less could you care?
Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:37 pm to AwgustaDawg
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Yes, If our pediatrician recommended it I would.
Even with all the new research showing the vaccine is killing people you would just blindly follow the recommendation of someone that is still "practicing" medicine...smh
Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:37 pm to PsychTiger
So what lead this thread down the tranny rabbit hole?
Shooter a xi/xim?
Shooter a xi/xim?
Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:37 pm to AwgustaDawg
In an attempt at discussing the issue:
It's very easy to discern that small children are at negligible risk of COVID. Whether due to better data or less manipulation/misconstruing of it, that became more and more clear as we worked through the pandemic. I'm not in the field but I can more or less read JAMA articles and the like and there is plenty out there that is approachable for us in the general public on this topic.
I've asked several physicians whether they believe there is a medical reason to vaccinate small children against COVID other than in an effort protect other parts of the population through limitation of transmission, and nobody has told me yet that they believe there is. I don't know how there could be on a logical level, if the risk is remote and the shots are of only limited value to most people, it stands to reason that they'd be particularly limited in effectiveness on small kids.
But despite that, if your pediatrician said "yeah the CDC recommends it let's do it" you'd go along with it? I'm glad I didn't have to face this question earlier on because I'm not confident enough in my reasoning and study-reading skills to place even a small gamble on my kids' health. But now that there is much more out there in the open and we have several years of real world experience to go on, I'd be very confident in saying no. I don't think the shot poses a major risk to most kids, but I think it's abundantly clear that any benefit is very limited.
And on top of all that is the crisis in expertise - why am I being told to put that in the arm of my 6 month old? Why do most people in the field I know decline to do so for their own kids? Leave all the sexier conspiracies aside, there are plenty of good reasons to look at the last 5 years with a sober mind and go "how am I supposed to trust these recommendations now?"
It's very easy to discern that small children are at negligible risk of COVID. Whether due to better data or less manipulation/misconstruing of it, that became more and more clear as we worked through the pandemic. I'm not in the field but I can more or less read JAMA articles and the like and there is plenty out there that is approachable for us in the general public on this topic.
I've asked several physicians whether they believe there is a medical reason to vaccinate small children against COVID other than in an effort protect other parts of the population through limitation of transmission, and nobody has told me yet that they believe there is. I don't know how there could be on a logical level, if the risk is remote and the shots are of only limited value to most people, it stands to reason that they'd be particularly limited in effectiveness on small kids.
But despite that, if your pediatrician said "yeah the CDC recommends it let's do it" you'd go along with it? I'm glad I didn't have to face this question earlier on because I'm not confident enough in my reasoning and study-reading skills to place even a small gamble on my kids' health. But now that there is much more out there in the open and we have several years of real world experience to go on, I'd be very confident in saying no. I don't think the shot poses a major risk to most kids, but I think it's abundantly clear that any benefit is very limited.
And on top of all that is the crisis in expertise - why am I being told to put that in the arm of my 6 month old? Why do most people in the field I know decline to do so for their own kids? Leave all the sexier conspiracies aside, there are plenty of good reasons to look at the last 5 years with a sober mind and go "how am I supposed to trust these recommendations now?"
This post was edited on 9/5/24 at 2:39 pm
Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:40 pm to Scruffy
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Supporting the dismemberment and castration of individuals, including children, as a method of “curing” them, solely because an individual said it was beneficial (without blatantly obvious data stating that as a fact), is, in my opinion, the mindset of a psychopath or an individual with significant mental inhibition.
It's such a shock when I come across a person that truly believes this when traveling. Glad I grew up in the 80's and not now. I have a hard time even relating to someone so arse-backwards delusional. How do you convince yourself of such stupidity?
Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:40 pm to LNCHBOX
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I'd be embarrassed to announce to the internet how stupid I was with logic like this.
I would posit that most people would agree that someone who was correct 100% of the time was more likely to be correct than someone who was incorrect 100% of the time. I would also posit that the same number of people would question the judgement of the person who was 100% correct if they took advice from the person who was 100% incorrect IF a correct answer was the goal. You claim that you never "blindly trust" anyone, particularly good doctors in good practices yet you continue to take your kids to those doctors despite them being consistently wrong while you are never wrong, by you summation, not mine. That is a case study in illogical behavior, unless of course your goal was for them to misdiagnose your kids so you could correct them with your expertise and experience. If that was your goal you certainly seem to have met it, the question is where is the logic in your goal? Seems like you sought medical care for your kids, the professionals fouled it up somehow, you corrected them and surmised they were good doctors in a good practice. I am not certain you are an authority on logic. In fact I am certain you are not.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:41 pm to AwgustaDawg
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I would posit that most people would agree that someone who was correct 100% of the time was more likely to be correct than someone who was incorrect 100% of the time. I
What the frick are you babbling about?
Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:43 pm to AwgustaDawg
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AwgustaDawg
You obviously graduated from the SFP school of derailing a thread.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:44 pm to AwgustaDawg
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I would posit that most people would agree that someone who was correct 100% of the time was more likely to be correct than someone who was incorrect 100% of the time. I would also posit that the same number of people would question the judgement of the person who was 100% correct if they took advice from the person who was 100% incorrect IF a correct answer was the goal. You claim that you never "blindly trust" anyone, particularly good doctors in good practices yet you continue to take your kids to those doctors despite them being consistently wrong while you are never wrong, by you summation, not mine. That is a case study in illogical behavior, unless of course your goal was for them to misdiagnose your kids so you could correct them with your expertise and experience. If that was your goal you certainly seem to have met it, the question is where is the logic in your goal? Seems like you sought medical care for your kids, the professionals fouled it up somehow, you corrected them and surmised they were good doctors in a good practice. I am not certain you are an authority on logic. In fact I am certain you are not.
Way to double down on looking like a dumbass. Impressive you have so much time to waste writing walls of rambling nonsense.
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