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re: Mass shooting at Atlanta area high school
Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:44 pm to AwgustaDawg
Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:44 pm to AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:47 pm to AwgustaDawg
I already know that you are a far left whackjob but this sentence alone would tell me all I needed to know about you and to stay far away. Holy shite
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The CDC and a pediatrician is infinitely more qualified to give medical advice to anyone not affiliated with the CDC and who has no medical training. S
Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:47 pm to LegendInMyMind
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What the frick are you babbling about?
He thinks that doctors are correct 100% of the time.
Really.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:48 pm to LNCHBOX
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Way to double down on looking like a dumbass. Impressive you have so much time to waste writing walls of rambling nonsense.
It's probably some kid using ChatGBT.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:51 pm to Pettifogger
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In an attempt at discussing the issue:
It's very easy to discern that small children are at negligible risk of COVID. Whether due to better data or less manipulation/misconstruing of it, that became more and more clear as we worked through the pandemic. I'm not in the field but I can more or less read JAMA articles and the like and there is plenty out there that is approachable for us in the general public on this topic.
I've asked several physicians whether they believe there is a medical reason to vaccinate small children against COVID other than in an effort protect other parts of the population through limitation of transmission, and nobody has told me yet that they believe there is. I don't know how there could be on a logical level, if the risk is remote and the shots are of only limited value to most people, it stands to reason that they'd be particularly limited in effectiveness on small kids.
But despite that, if your pediatrician said "yeah the CDC recommends it let's do it" you'd go along with it? I'm glad I didn't have to face this question earlier on because I'm not confident enough in my reasoning and study-reading skills to place even a small gamble on my kids' health. But now that there is much more out there in the open and we have several years of real world experience to go on, I'd be very confident in saying no. I don't think the shot poses a major risk to most kids, but I think it's abundantly clear that any benefit is very limited.
And on top of all that is the crisis in expertise - why am I being told to put that in the arm of my 6 month old? Why do most people in the field I know decline to do so for their own kids? Leave all the sexier conspiracies aside, there are plenty of good reasons to look at the last 5 years with a sober mind and go "how am I supposed to trust these recommendations now?"
All completely sound opinion. This is EXACTLY what anyone should do when it comes to medical decisions....base them on sound judgement, the advice they receive from the experts they ask and their own research. Basing medical decisions on the opinion of people on a message board is not sound opinion, it is in fact kind of stupid. This is exactly what parents of children with gender dysphoria should be allowed to do...and other people should mind their own damned business.
In the case of a covid vaccine for a 6 month old I was responsible for IF our pediatrician said "yeah the CDC recommends it let's do it" I would ask them what they thought. If they did not say, categorically, that they would recommend it I would ask why. If they told me that the benefit to the child would be negligible I would decline. That is exactly why my answer was I would base the decision on recommendations of the medical community, the CDC and our pediatrician. Not solely on the recommendation of the CDC, I would lean toward accepting the recommendations of our pediatrician but I would not take my child to one I did not trust.
The one thing that would have NO bearing on me making decisions is the advice of someone who is most likely also of the opinion that lizard people run the world. If it is a random message board post I certainly would not allow that to sway my decision one way or another. I would do exactly what you have described.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:51 pm to PsychTiger
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It's probably some kid using ChatGBT.
It isn't. AwgustaDawg is just this terrible.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:53 pm to LegendInMyMind
Whatever, I could NOT care less.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:54 pm to AwgustaDawg
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Basing medical decisions on the opinion of people on a message board is not sound opinion, it is in fact kind of stupid.
Who has advocated for this?
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The one thing that would have NO bearing on me making decisions is the advice of someone who is most likely also of the opinion that lizard people run the world. If it is a random message board post I certainly would not allow that to sway my decision one way or another. I would do exactly what you have described.
Again, who said to do this?
Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:54 pm to SOSFAN
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Even with all the new research showing the vaccine is killing people you would just blindly follow the recommendation of someone that is still "practicing" medicine...smh
Yes I would trust the opinion of the medical community and a trained physician who I trusted over the opinion of a random poster on an internet message board and a bunch of bunk "research" published on websites where one is also likely to read about non-existent basements in pizza joints and lizard people. Color me crazy......imagine the shear gullibilty of trusting science over the national enquirer....crazy crazy crazy
Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:55 pm to AwgustaDawg
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In the case of a covid vaccine for a 6 month old I was responsible for IF our pediatrician said "yeah the CDC recommends it let's do it" I would ask them what they thought. If they did not say, categorically, that they would recommend it I would ask why. If they told me that the benefit to the child would be negligible I would decline. That is exactly why my answer was I would base the decision on recommendations of the medical community, the CDC and our pediatrician. Not solely on the recommendation of the CDC, I would lean toward accepting the recommendations of our pediatrician but I would not take my child to one I did not trust.
This is not what most doctors were saying for a long period of time, at all. They were going along with whatever the CDC recommended despite all the evidence showing it was worthless for the vast majority of people back in 2021
And you would've given it to your kid because you rely only on others who are paid to lie to you. Sad
Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:55 pm to AwgustaDawg
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Yes I would trust the opinion of the medical community and a trained physician who I trusted over the opinion of a random poster on an internet message board and a bunch of bunk "research" published on websites where one is also likely to read about non-existent basements in pizza joints and lizard people. Color me crazy......imagine the shear gullibilty of trusting science over the national enquirer....crazy crazy crazy
You sur seem like you only will listen to people you agree with.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:56 pm to AwgustaDawg
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AwgustaDawg
You've already proven that objective fact means nothing to you, particularly and especially when it requires you to admit you are wrong. You're a clown.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:56 pm to AwgustaDawg
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message board and a bunch of bunk "research" published on websites
you mean like the research showing the vaccine doesn't stop the spread (while Biden was on tv telling you it did) and the data that children weren't at risk? that kind of research?
Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:56 pm to Proximo
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This is not what most doctors were saying for a long period of time, at all. They were going along with whatever the CDC recommended despite all the evidence showing it was worthless for the vast majority of people back in 2021
And you would've given it to your kid because you rely only on others who are paid to lie to you. Sad
There it is....paid to lie to you. Again, suffering from irrational fears is a textbook example of mental illness which can be treated.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:57 pm to Proximo
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you mean like the research showing the vaccine doesn't stop the spread (while Biden was on tv telling you it did) and the data that children weren't at risk? that kind of research?
tRuSt ThE sCiEnCe
Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:58 pm to AwgustaDawg
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There it is....paid to lie to you. Again, suffering from irrational fears is a textbook example of mental illness which can be treated.
so now you're claiming hospitals didn't get more money for covid related deaths?
Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:59 pm to Proximo
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so now you're claiming hospitals didn't get more money for covid related deaths?
And there were certainly no promotions to get the vaccines
Posted on 9/5/24 at 3:01 pm to AwgustaDawg
I get that. My point in this rabbit hole is that there are some good-faith reasons to question "medical consensus" - especially lately. I'm guessing that among all practicing physicians there is quite a bit of division about gender dysphoria, social contagion and the impacts on kids. One assumes they see counterpart medical organizations in first world countries taking wildly different and more cautious approaches, while watching our medical institutions (and portions of those they belong to) act as social advocacy groups rather than reserved professionals.
That should make anyone wary. The "consensus" is coming from the same group that preaches the need to end colonialism in medicine and accept the equal validity of indigenous medical practices and other ridiculous things that aren't saving lives or helping people. You probably won't agree with me on this, but I think a pretty large and pretty fair swath of the population thinks - reasonably so - that our medical profession (or some influential slice of it) has been very seriously corrupted and that they're willing to play wokeness games with the lives of our children.
Ultimately, I come back over and over to "who is this helping, who is better off because of this?" That's both on the "woke" stuff in medicine ("decolonize cardiology!") and growth of transgender "treatment". Anecdotally, I don't see any signs of it. Do you know a lot of kids who were transitioned and are just healthy, thriving, normal adults? I don't, I don't see them at all, and this is in a culture that would love nothing more than to drive that argument home to the rest of us backward folk day after day if it was happening.
That should make anyone wary. The "consensus" is coming from the same group that preaches the need to end colonialism in medicine and accept the equal validity of indigenous medical practices and other ridiculous things that aren't saving lives or helping people. You probably won't agree with me on this, but I think a pretty large and pretty fair swath of the population thinks - reasonably so - that our medical profession (or some influential slice of it) has been very seriously corrupted and that they're willing to play wokeness games with the lives of our children.
Ultimately, I come back over and over to "who is this helping, who is better off because of this?" That's both on the "woke" stuff in medicine ("decolonize cardiology!") and growth of transgender "treatment". Anecdotally, I don't see any signs of it. Do you know a lot of kids who were transitioned and are just healthy, thriving, normal adults? I don't, I don't see them at all, and this is in a culture that would love nothing more than to drive that argument home to the rest of us backward folk day after day if it was happening.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 3:01 pm to PJinAtl
If I accidentally post nudes will Chicken allow me to use the below excuse to avoid the 
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In May 2023, officers from Jackson County questioned both Gray and his father about a Discord channel believed to be linked to the then-13-year-old which allegedly made threats about a school shooting.
The Discord account had a user name written in Russian, and the translation of the letters spelled out the name Lanza, referencing Adam Lanza, the perpetrator of the Sandy Hook Elementary school tragedy, officers said.
Gray denied he was the author of the threats, telling police he'd shut down his Discord after being repeatedly hacked. He expressed concerns that someone would make those accusations about him.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 3:07 pm to AwgustaDawg
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imagine the shear gullibilty of trusting science over the national enquirer
Science is a process, dumbass. It is not static and isn't a conclusion that you "trust" as you are implying.
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