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re: Mass shooting at Atlanta area high school
Posted on 9/5/24 at 8:36 am to AwgustaDawg
Posted on 9/5/24 at 8:36 am to AwgustaDawg
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Were this idiotic and silly notion remotely accurate placing a lock on your front door would mean you deserved neither liberty nor safety. Ben Franklin was a verbose drunk...
What liberties do you give up by taking a precaution exactly?
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Posted on 9/5/24 at 8:38 am to lsupride87
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Not to freaking mention we had a transgender celebration at the actual white house
This country has convinced itself wanting to cut your dick off is not mental health. It’s convinced itself wanting to dress like the opposite sex and parade around is not mental health
It’s wild
No one in the mental health community that is respected denies that gender dysphoria is a mental illness. It is well established in the APA literature. Cutting the dick off a person thusly diagnosed is a form of TREATMENT in the exact same way performing surgery to remove cancer is a treatment for cancer. Wearing clothes and parading around is also a form of treatment the same as a person with diabetes is encouraged to exercise and eat right. Neither is a case of the patient being celebrated as hero, it is a case of the patient being treated. Given the social issues associated with mental health which is absent in physical conditions it has also been proven that simply accepting the individual as a fellow human being instead of some sort of vermin unfit for human existence is a highly beneficial form of treatment.
Its pretty obvious you are sickened at the site of a man in a dress. I seriously doubt the site of a man with an amputated leg is equally distressing to you. If that is the case it is incumbent upon you to find out why. It is not normal to feel contempt for the ill among us. There is something seriously wrong with anyone who does.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 8:39 am to AwgustaDawg
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The 10 commandments have nothing to do with morality. Avoiding vice is not equivalent to achieving virtue. Equating Christian Ideology with morality is the height of human hubris and speaks volumes about the morality of the individual doing the equating.
Yes, the 10 commandments, which can be summed up as "I am your God, don't do bad things to others" has 0 basis in morality. Got it
Posted on 9/5/24 at 8:41 am to AwgustaDawg
quote:It is treatment in the same way lobotomies were once considered treatments.
Cutting the dick off a person thusly diagnosed is a form of TREATMENT in the exact same way performing surgery to remove cancer is a treatment for cancer.
There is a reason other countries, including the heavily progressive Great Britain, have discarded this process.
It doesn’t actually treat anything and has resulted in no reduction in suicidal attempts or suicides.
It is as if affirming a delusion doesn’t actually fix the problem.
Gender dysphoria is a terrible condition, but affirming a delusion has never been the appropriate course of action.
This post was edited on 9/5/24 at 8:43 am
Posted on 9/5/24 at 8:42 am to AwgustaDawg
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Its pretty obvious you are sickened at the site of a man in a dress
Its "sight"
No one is sickened. Its embarrassing to see failed men LARPING as women
Parents allowing kids to transition should be incarcerated.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 8:44 am to Scruffy
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It is as if affirming a delusion doesn’t actually fix the problem.
"Affirming" a childs delusion is more dangerous than being harsh with the realities of the situation.
I will never understand how a grown arse man can believe an elementary school kid can transition.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 8:45 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Most of these idiots believe it is reversible because activists have spread that lie.
I will never understand how a grown arse man can believe an elementary school kid can transition.
It is not reversible. Once you block puberty, there is no going back.
Period.
Like I said, this is the lobotomy era on repeat, except, they are willing to sacrifice children on their altar this time around.
This post was edited on 9/5/24 at 8:51 am
Posted on 9/5/24 at 8:46 am to AwgustaDawg
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Its pretty obvious you are sickened at the site of a man in a dress. I seriously doubt the site of a man with an amputated leg is equally distressing to you. If that is the case it is incumbent upon you to find out why. It is not normal to feel contempt for the ill among us. There is something seriously wrong with anyone who does.
Feel free to cut your dick off. Don't ask me to pay for it or play pretend with you, or try to force my kids to believe that you're normal, and IDGAF what you do.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 8:47 am to AwgustaDawg
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We also do not tell cancer patients that their illness is disgusting and they ought to be ashamed of themselves for being afflicted with cancer.
Because they’re not even remotely close to being the same thing
Posted on 9/5/24 at 8:47 am to Saunson69
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Saunson69
How old are you?
Posted on 9/5/24 at 8:51 am to AwgustaDawg
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It is not the president nor the vice president nor their supporters who are preventing or trying to prevent trans people from seeking or getting treatment for their mental illness my friend.....it is the right.
Treating transgender as a mental illness is the correct thing to do. Telling them to dive into their illness is not treating it in the slightest
This post was edited on 9/5/24 at 8:52 am
Posted on 9/5/24 at 8:51 am to beerJeep
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You do realize violent crime has been trending DOWNWARD for decades, right?
The proliferation of violent crime has had an INVERSE relationship with the proliferation of more graphic and violent video games.
Common perception based on FBI stats. The problem is that major cities limited or stopped the reporting to the FBI altogether decades ago.
Even with that, violent crime has trended sharply upwards in the most blue metros that defunded police, etc.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 8:52 am to AwgustaDawg
So much wrong with this
A politicized protocol due to fear to label trangenderism as something that needs to be cured and not accommodated. If I thought my right arm was trying to kill me, would treatment be to cut it off?
Cancer cells are an abnormality that will kill you if left unchecked. See the difference?
Nobody is saying they are vermin. They’re individuals with deep mental issue and those issues need to be addressed…and the solution isn’t to just whistle past the graveyard and accommodate these individuals as if this is a behavior that needs to be accepted.
I’m so sick of a tiny majority of people trying to dictate to everyone else that WE have a problem when confronted with this insane bullshite. If someone wants to pretend to be a different gender then have at it, but don’t tell me that I have to accept them as being that gender or that they don’t have severe psychological issues and accomdating their fantasy is treatment.
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It is well established in the APA literature. Cutting the dick off a person thusly diagnosed is a form of TREATMENT
A politicized protocol due to fear to label trangenderism as something that needs to be cured and not accommodated. If I thought my right arm was trying to kill me, would treatment be to cut it off?
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in the exact same way performing surgery to remove cancer is a treatment for cancer.
Cancer cells are an abnormality that will kill you if left unchecked. See the difference?
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proven that simply accepting the individual as a fellow human being instead of some sort of vermin unfit for human existence is a highly beneficial form of treatment.
Nobody is saying they are vermin. They’re individuals with deep mental issue and those issues need to be addressed…and the solution isn’t to just whistle past the graveyard and accommodate these individuals as if this is a behavior that needs to be accepted.
I’m so sick of a tiny majority of people trying to dictate to everyone else that WE have a problem when confronted with this insane bullshite. If someone wants to pretend to be a different gender then have at it, but don’t tell me that I have to accept them as being that gender or that they don’t have severe psychological issues and accomdating their fantasy is treatment.
This post was edited on 9/5/24 at 9:21 am
Posted on 9/5/24 at 8:59 am to AwgustaDawg
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And surprise surprise hunting and shooting sports are EXTREMELY popular in Western Europe. There is also a shortage of folks breaking into people's homes who need to shoot the intruder or people having to shoot criminals on the streets. It really is a miracle....
What is missing? Irrational fear. Western Europeans do not have an industry telling them daily that their lives are endangered every minute of every day. They have politicians who do it but they are, for the most part, seen for the hucksters that they are. They are not one of two major parties. It is entirely possible in Germany, the same as the US, to go to McDonalds without a gun strapped to yourself and the only actual danger you face is eating at McDonalds.
Clueless post. Do you know where almost all car theft deterrent technologies at the OEM level originate? Europe, because car theft is utterly rampant there with 0 consequences.
Theft in general is ignored in Europe, and has been since the 1990's. If someone breaks into your house there and you resist, or worse yet, injure them, guess who gets arrested?? You, Monsieur Homeowner. There are numerous documented cases from the UK and the rest of Europe.
What happens if a roving gang of "religious" youths beats your arse and rapes your GF/daughter/wife? Nothing, unless you hurt one of them.
Yeah, let's be more like Europe while throwing our Southern border open wide to every jail release and gang member from every S American country. No thanks.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 9:03 am to Scruffy
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It is treatment in the same way lobotomies were once considered treatments.
There is a reason other countries, including the heavily progressive Great Britain, have discarded this process.
It doesn’t actually treat anything and has resulted in no reduction in suicidal attempts or suicides.
It is as if affirming a delusion doesn’t actually fix the problem.
Gender dysphoria is a terrible condition, but affirming a delusion has never been the appropriate course of action.
I am no medical professional so I can only go on what professionals say and there is a large contingent of them who are of the opinion that current treatments work to some extent. The success or failure of commonly accepted treatments are what they are. Unless of course one thinks that an sizeable portion of the medical community is merely mutilating people for no other reason than to mutilate them.
Lobotomies were treatment. Using leaches was a treatment. Lobotomies' were apparently very successful....to the point that we developed chemicals which do basically the exact same thing with fewer physical impacts.
Treatment is anything one does to address an illness. The success of medical treatment is almost always based on time and experience. I trust the medical community and patients to make the best decision for them and do not trust politicians to make that decision.
I do not understand gender dysphoria any more than I do cancer. All I know is I am glad not to suffer with either. I also know that it is not common for people to hold cancer patients and their doctors in disdain while it is VERY common to do so with patients who suffer from gender dysphoria. While lopping the pecker off may not help it is hard to see how treating patients like second class citizens or vermin helps.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 9:03 am to TigerHornII
Not to mention that the US is the least homogenous country in the world, with different backgrounds, religious beliefs, values, cultures, races, etc.
All of that creates entirely different sets of problems which can lead to crime against person or property
All of that creates entirely different sets of problems which can lead to crime against person or property
Posted on 9/5/24 at 9:04 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Its "sight"
No one is sickened. Its embarrassing to see failed men LARPING as women
Parents allowing kids to transition should be incarcerated.
Sickened or embarrassed either way its your fee fees and of no concern to anyone other than you.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 9:05 am to AwgustaDawg
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I do not understand gender dysphoria any more than I do cancer. All I know is I am glad not to suffer with either. I also know that it is not common for people to hold cancer patients and their doctors in disdain while it is VERY common to do so with patients who suffer from gender dysphoria. While lopping the pecker off may not help it is hard to see how treating patients like second class citizens or vermin helps.
Because cutting your dick off to treat mental illness is equivalent to shooting a cancer patient in the head at diagnosis
Posted on 9/5/24 at 9:05 am to lepdagod
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I fully understand that having those guns for that reason is silly. My house is about as secure with a gun or without as it is possible to be. The idea of someone entering my home while I am there and me shooting them is so remote it is insignificant. This is true for the vast majority of people in the US. The numbers are well established and available. Arguing otherwise is based on irrational fears and nothing else.
Exactly... people aware of this... most these people haven't ever been a heated argument as adults with another adult...but think their home needs to be a mini armory for protection
Depending on whose numbers you believe, Defensive Gun Uses - defined as producing a gun in a bad situation whether the gun is fired or not - number between 500,000 and close to 2 million instances per year in the US. The low number is by an anti-gun extremist researcher, and even that vastly outnumbers the gun deaths by criminal intent. How many murders, rapes, and other crimes does that prevent per year?
Posted on 9/5/24 at 9:08 am to AwgustaDawg
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I do not understand gender dysphoria any more than I do cancer. All I know is I am glad not to suffer with either. I also know that it is not common for people to hold cancer patients and their doctors in disdain while it is VERY common to do so with patients who suffer from gender dysphoria. While lopping the pecker off may not help it is hard to see how treating patients like second class citizens or vermin helps.
The medical community doesn't go around making cancer a human rights issue or talking about cancer pride or how one's true self and speaking "my truth" involves cancer.
It's just an entirely different dynamic
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