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re: Marines who went through Parris Island in the Vietnam Era- question
Posted on 5/25/20 at 9:36 am to LSUAngelHere1
Posted on 5/25/20 at 9:36 am to LSUAngelHere1
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My Daddy did in 1967 but boot camp was in San Diego.
OOORah!! Real Marines are west Coast Marines!!
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Posted on 5/25/20 at 9:57 am to USMCTIGER1970
My dad went straight to quantico, then Camp Pendleton, then Officer in artillery in Vietnam
Posted on 5/25/20 at 10:21 am to deeprig9
My SDI wasn’t the kill hat. He had three other junior DI,s for that. A drill hat and two kill hats.
As far as language you are cussed at throughout but it becomes white noise after awhile. You will be called f@660+/pussy. On the very first training day (like day 4) I saw a white kill hat call a black recruit a n______. The DI got right in his face and called him it like trying to provoke him. The recruit didn’t flinch and it was the only time I heard it in my 13 weeks there. Its weird because the other kill hat right next to him and also the SDI were black. All part of the show I guess
As far as language you are cussed at throughout but it becomes white noise after awhile. You will be called f@660+/pussy. On the very first training day (like day 4) I saw a white kill hat call a black recruit a n______. The DI got right in his face and called him it like trying to provoke him. The recruit didn’t flinch and it was the only time I heard it in my 13 weeks there. Its weird because the other kill hat right next to him and also the SDI were black. All part of the show I guess
This post was edited on 5/25/20 at 10:23 am
Posted on 5/25/20 at 10:28 am to deeprig9
I have been through both army basic training and Marine Corps Boot Camp. Was in the army reserves for two years right out of HS. Got bored and decided I should have joined the Corps like my father (‘67 - ‘68, 0311, 1/5 D Company, Vietnam). Army basic, at 18 years old, wasn’t really that challenging. The drill sergeants weren’t that intimidating and I found the PT to be fun. We had Sundays off after the second or third week. I met a girl one Sunday from a female training company at the movie theater and spent every Sunday hanging with her until graduation. Unfortunately, her AIT was in TX and I never saw her again. Good times. AIT was even more laid back. I was a combat engineer. Drill weekends were a waste of time.
Spent 10 years on active duty in the Corps (0341/0331). Boot Camp at MCRD San Diego. It was night and day different compared to the Army. They gave me hell for being prior army, but made me the platoon guide and it earned me a stripe at graduation. Marine Corps Boot Camp is more physical than army basic, but it goes much farther than that...it’s a mental difference. Marine Corps Boot Camp is violent...they want killers. Army basic is physical, but not really mental, if that makes sense. The Corps deprograms you and builds you back up the way they want you. The army seems happy to be a melting pot, the Corps wants Marines.
My father has stated that his experience in ‘67 was very similar to FMJ (We watched it together once after I became a Marine). The second part of FMJ was largely nonsense). They did give blacks a hard time in BC back then. Not so much now. By graduation, you have accepted the fact that there are only two colors of Marines...light green and dark green. There isn’t a lot of race issues in the Corps. The army, on the other hand, seemed split along racial lines (whites, Hispanics, blacks).
I joined the army....I became a Marine. Make sense?
Kill!
Semper Fi!
Spent 10 years on active duty in the Corps (0341/0331). Boot Camp at MCRD San Diego. It was night and day different compared to the Army. They gave me hell for being prior army, but made me the platoon guide and it earned me a stripe at graduation. Marine Corps Boot Camp is more physical than army basic, but it goes much farther than that...it’s a mental difference. Marine Corps Boot Camp is violent...they want killers. Army basic is physical, but not really mental, if that makes sense. The Corps deprograms you and builds you back up the way they want you. The army seems happy to be a melting pot, the Corps wants Marines.
My father has stated that his experience in ‘67 was very similar to FMJ (We watched it together once after I became a Marine). The second part of FMJ was largely nonsense). They did give blacks a hard time in BC back then. Not so much now. By graduation, you have accepted the fact that there are only two colors of Marines...light green and dark green. There isn’t a lot of race issues in the Corps. The army, on the other hand, seemed split along racial lines (whites, Hispanics, blacks).
I joined the army....I became a Marine. Make sense?
Kill!
Semper Fi!
Posted on 5/25/20 at 10:29 am to cubsfan5150
quote:That's it?
I went through AF basic in 1999 and accidentally bumped into a little punk arse Puerto Rican TI and he talked shite and asked if I was gay... so yeah, I'm not surprised that racial slurs were used back then.
Our drills told us to shut our cock holsters and cum dumpsters all the time and when we fricked up we were "wrong as two boys fricking". We also that had one drill that would offer privates the opportunity to smell his dick for $5 if he suspected they were gay. This was the 90's. I can only imagine how glorious the 60's were.
Posted on 5/25/20 at 10:40 am to salty1
quote:This was not my experience at Ft Benning to put it mildly. If you didn't go to church services on Sunday there was a GI party in the barracks all morning. And Sunday afternoons were normal training. We also didn't have any females which was a blessing and a curse but mostly a blessing.
The drill sergeants weren’t that intimidating and I found the PT to be fun. We had Sundays off after the second or third week. I met a girl one Sunday from a female training company at the movie theater and spent every Sunday hanging with her until graduation.
Do combat engineers go to regular mixed basic? I thought they did OSUT?
Posted on 5/25/20 at 10:41 am to deeprig9
Army. Fort Leonard Wood. DI Sgt. Bell woke us up at 3:55AM with the garbage can lid hitting the floor. Next morning I had all the guys in our squad up ,dressed,with bunks made,standing in the dark.When Sgt. Bell flipped the light switch on and saw us he just shook his head and told us to get our asses outside. A lot of Basic is a mind game to see how much stress a person can take. I was impressed with Sgt. Bell,it was said he did 6 tours in Viet Nam,had a red convertible 67 Impala with a 25 year old wife. Fort Lost in the Woods.
Posted on 5/25/20 at 10:43 am to SantaFe
quote:Mine had a giant concert speaker on a shopping cart that he would wheel into the bay and crank "Dream On" by Aerosmith at full blast. I hate that song so much.
Bell woke us up at 3:55AM with the garbage can lid hitting the floor
Posted on 5/25/20 at 10:46 am to deeprig9
I was there in 96. It was very similar then. I know three men who were there during Vietnam. They all say it's a perfect representation.
Posted on 5/25/20 at 10:46 am to northshorebamaman
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This was not my experience at Ft Benning to put it mildly. If you didn't go to church services on Sunday there was a GI party in the barracks all morning. And Sunday afternoons were normal training. We also didn't have any females which was a blessing and a curse but mostly a blessing.
Do combat engineers go to regular mixed basic? I thought they did OSUT?
It was a half day off on Sunday’s (if I recall correctly). Not mixed training...met up with the females on Sunday when off. Never saw them otherwise. There was time enough to go to the PX and see a movie...and get to know the nurse to be from wherever...LOL.
Posted on 5/25/20 at 10:51 am to salty1
Well, damn. Now I'm kind of irritated about it. We got one afternoon off in between the basic and ait portions and the only thing within traveling distance was the shoppette. 
This post was edited on 5/25/20 at 10:52 am
Posted on 5/25/20 at 11:02 am to northshorebamaman
Were you infantry? I always suspected army basic at Benning was different than basic at Fort LW.
The Corps only has two Boot Camps...San Diego and Paris Island. Real Marines are made in Hollywood by the way. LOL!
I’ve been to a few graduations at PI, and the terrain there is basically the same...lots of sand. Going to Pendleton for infantry training (SOI/ITB) is what separates the west coast from the east coast. I did my training at Pendleton and was later an infantry instructor at Camp Geiger (east coast ITB). There’s no comparison. I tried to make it as difficult as humanly possible so the east coast guys felt like they’d accomplished something when they graduated. ;)
Edit: watching planes take off and land all day and night at San Diego seemed to have more psychological impact on those that were a little “home sick”. The Island is basically removed from the outside world.
The Corps only has two Boot Camps...San Diego and Paris Island. Real Marines are made in Hollywood by the way. LOL!
I’ve been to a few graduations at PI, and the terrain there is basically the same...lots of sand. Going to Pendleton for infantry training (SOI/ITB) is what separates the west coast from the east coast. I did my training at Pendleton and was later an infantry instructor at Camp Geiger (east coast ITB). There’s no comparison. I tried to make it as difficult as humanly possible so the east coast guys felt like they’d accomplished something when they graduated. ;)
Edit: watching planes take off and land all day and night at San Diego seemed to have more psychological impact on those that were a little “home sick”. The Island is basically removed from the outside world.
This post was edited on 5/25/20 at 11:14 am
Posted on 5/25/20 at 11:12 am to deeprig9
Also...quick fact. The boot camp scenes were mostly shot overseas...not PI. No scenes were shot at PI. Always thought it was strange to not shot it at PI.
This post was edited on 5/25/20 at 11:20 am
Posted on 5/25/20 at 11:12 am to salty1
Yeah. I feel like I got the full experience at Benning. The drills were hilarious and bitter as frick. It wasn't every day but they would still put hands on people. I saw a guy get the Rodney King treatment for falling out of a run and a couple of weeks later saw his cousin (they joined together) catch the same beat down for falling out of a ruck.
I just kept my head down and tried to melt into the background. It mostly worked.
I just kept my head down and tried to melt into the background. It mostly worked.
Posted on 5/25/20 at 12:05 pm to Cincinnati Bowtie
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Not Marines, not Paris Island and after Vietnam, but the Army at Fort Jackson, SC in 1981 was very similar.
I was there the summer of '82. Hot as frick. Drill sergeant was pretty cool until some dumbasses quartered him in his room one night. Life was rough for a while after that.
Posted on 5/25/20 at 1:08 pm to salty1
You are correct on the San Diego and Paris Island deal. I went to boot camp in San Diego and then my first 3yrs in the Corps was at PI as a 5811, I love all my Devil Dawg's out there but it isn't close.
The movie always brings me back to boot camp with the similarities. The main difference to me is that the SR. DI is not he heavy he is more like dad.
Our Heavy was a 5'5" Mexican SSgt Moreno, that everyone in the platoon was terrified of LOL! don't recall any racial stuff, but we threw a couple of blanket parties and I know for a fact, a couple of recruits got beat down in the whiskey locker.
The movie always brings me back to boot camp with the similarities. The main difference to me is that the SR. DI is not he heavy he is more like dad.
Our Heavy was a 5'5" Mexican SSgt Moreno, that everyone in the platoon was terrified of LOL! don't recall any racial stuff, but we threw a couple of blanket parties and I know for a fact, a couple of recruits got beat down in the whiskey locker.
This post was edited on 5/25/20 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 5/25/20 at 1:18 pm to deeprig9
Ermey was also in Boys in Company C back in 1978. His character better explained the why in the movie in a scene where he was trying to get a black kid who learned to be tough on the streets to take a leadership role.
You Tube bad language
You Tube bad language
This post was edited on 5/25/20 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 5/25/20 at 1:56 pm to Cincinnati Bowtie
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Yessir
Did you have to go up and down that steep hill across the road from the barracks? I think they called it drag arse hill.
Posted on 5/25/20 at 2:26 pm to USMCTIGER1970
Did boot camp at MCRD in San Diego in fall of ‘68. One year after RL Ermey was a DI there.
Yes, first half of FMJ very accurate for language and “customs” — actually was more violent back then. Lot of head slapping, solar plexus hits, eye plucks, mild choking, elbows and toes with rib kicks. The Corps cleaned it up a bit in the mid 70s.
Camp Pendleton was a beast for long range forced marches in the mountains. Hardest physical training of my entire life.
— boot camp scenes in FMJ were filmed in England.
— second part of FMJ supposedly in Hue during Tet was way off base.
— opening FMJ haircut scene was priceless.
S/F Devil Dogs
Yes, first half of FMJ very accurate for language and “customs” — actually was more violent back then. Lot of head slapping, solar plexus hits, eye plucks, mild choking, elbows and toes with rib kicks. The Corps cleaned it up a bit in the mid 70s.
Camp Pendleton was a beast for long range forced marches in the mountains. Hardest physical training of my entire life.
— boot camp scenes in FMJ were filmed in England.
— second part of FMJ supposedly in Hue during Tet was way off base.
— opening FMJ haircut scene was priceless.
S/F Devil Dogs
Posted on 5/25/20 at 2:29 pm to Beessnax
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Did you have to go up and down that steep hill across the road from the barracks? I think they called it drag arse hill.
We called that “Mt. Motherfricker“ and “Oh Hell Hill.”
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