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re: Marijuana Use Falls among Colorado teens according to federal/state data
Posted on 12/22/16 at 10:37 am to ctiger69
Posted on 12/22/16 at 10:37 am to ctiger69
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Satan applauds you. You serve him well.
Lol. I did have an uncle whose nickname was Satan. He'd be proud of the comment.
Though considering I live by the golden rule, I probably live my life by Jesus' message more than a lot of self proclaimed Christians. My off the clock reefer usage probably won't even be mentioned by St Peter.
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Posted on 12/22/16 at 10:41 am to NYNolaguy1
Because the thread is about drugs? I don't really give a shite either way as they aren't bothering or effecting me but I wasn't dumb enough to blindly believe the bullshite in the original link and Googled about drug use in Colorado and the first thing that pops up is their death rate is the highest in the country from harder drugs. So the premise that weed for everyone is great seems to be off if folks are moving to harder stuff and dieing over it.
Posted on 12/22/16 at 10:41 am to suavecito80
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All I know is that propaganda works. My wife is Colombian and she puts weed on the same level as Cocaine, Heroin, etc
This is very true in Latin America. My dad married an El Salvadorian woman. He loves to smoke, but she's deathly afraid of it.
In those types of countries, they either have 100% respect for the laws, or zero respect. There's no middle ground.
Posted on 12/22/16 at 10:44 am to NYNolaguy1
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I am thoroughly convinced that the big reason why this isn't taken up nationally is because of the LEO/Prison/Court/Legal lobbies. They don't want to kill the golden goose.
This plus beer companies and big pharm
Posted on 12/22/16 at 10:44 am to TxWadingFool
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So the premise that weed for everyone is great seems to be off if folks are moving to harder stuff and dieing over it.
Yeah, that's a pretty big (huge) if to assume that a spike in hard drug use/death is caused by marijuana being legal.
Posted on 12/22/16 at 10:45 am to suavecito80
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I am hoping it happens in my lifetime. I will smoke an L in the middle of the street wherever I am at the moment no matter how old I may be.
I didn't wait that long. I've smoked joints walking down the middle of multiple areas of Nola, while drumming in Mardi Gras parades. It's a very liberating feeling to smoke a joint while thousands of people dance and cheer you on.
Posted on 12/22/16 at 10:45 am to MorbidTheClown
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it's not as much fun without the risk of getting busted.
Well it's not valued as much when it's easier to obtain. That goes for anything.
Posted on 12/22/16 at 10:47 am to CCTider
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I didn't wait that long. I've smoked joints walking down the middle of multiple areas of Nola, while drumming in Mardi Gras parades. It's a very liberating feeling to smoke a joint while thousands of people dance and cheer you on.
And it's even easier now, with this year's partial decriminalization law in NOLA. If only the rest of the state would follow their lead.
This post was edited on 12/22/16 at 10:49 am
Posted on 12/22/16 at 10:48 am to TxWadingFool
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Just recently, he added, drug overdose deaths overtook motor vehicle accidents as another leading cause of death. Valuck says for the most recent year with data available, around 900 Coloradans died. He says in Colorado and most states, roughly two thirds of the overdose deaths are from pharmaceutical opioids, like Oxycontin, and one third are from heroin. But why is it happening? Valuck offers lots of reasons. Over-prescription of painkillers like Vicodin or Percocet is one, but these medications can also interact badly with other drugs.
Not a peep about cannabis in your article. Colorado also has more liquor stores that the average. We also lead the country in almost every measure of life.
Posted on 12/22/16 at 10:50 am to CCTider
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During prohibition, alcohol use went up across America
No it didn't
Posted on 12/22/16 at 10:55 am to lsu2006
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So keep the worst one legal, but forbid caffeine and tobacco. Makes sense.
I guess I wasn't detailed enough.
Alcohol use is to ingrained in our culture. We banged it one, and we saw hire that turned out. But you're right, alcohol is probably the most damaging substance to a society. But a big reason fit that is it's social acceptability. It's pretty much expected that adults drink at certain business and social functions and events. I've known a lot of alcoholics that have talked about the "why you don't drink?" conversation they regularly have.
If somebody tries talking my coffee, I'm arming myself.
Yeah, it's physically addictive. This is a perfect example of me painting with too broad of a brush. Tóuche.
Tobacco is a substance I am uncertain about. At this point, it wouldn't upset me if they banned it, and I'm a smoker. It's the one truly bad habit that I haven't been able to break. But even with the scrutiny they industry has been under, it's what help make America a world economic power in our early years. I'd be shocked to ever see it outright banned. They'll just keep taxing it into oblivion.
Whatever changes they made in their anti smoking campaigns in their late 90s worked very well. I'm 33, and it seems like people just a couple years younger, smoke at a much lower rate. It seems like you rarely see people in their 20s smoke.
Posted on 12/22/16 at 10:55 am to Watchmaker
Well no shite, does anyone think you die from smoking weed? The premise is people are moving to harder drugs from weed which is easily accessible.
Posted on 12/22/16 at 11:01 am to Watchmaker
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Not a peep about cannabis in your article. Colorado also has more liquor stores that the average. We also lead the country in almost every measure of life.
The liquor stores are pony because they can't sell full strength beer in grocery stores and gas stations.
It is a great place to live. If it weren't for all of my family and friends being back south, and the very high cost of living, I'd probably settle down here for good.
Posted on 12/22/16 at 11:03 am to TxWadingFool
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So the premise that weed for everyone is great seems to be off if folks are moving to harder stuff and dieing over it.
Couple things-
1)Alcohol is a heavily regulated drug.
2)Overdoses (especially opioid) overdoses are going up nationwide.
3)How do you believe kids are introduced to opioids? Through the same people selling them weed. Take out the illegal seller, and the exposure goes away. As a corollary, how many kids are buying alcohol from dealers?
4)Your article says nothing about marijuana.
This post was edited on 12/22/16 at 11:05 am
Posted on 12/22/16 at 11:03 am to TxWadingFool
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Well no shite, does anyone think you die from smoking weed? The premise is people are moving to harder drugs from weed which is easily accessible.
Premise? Nowhere did the article link mm to ODs of ANYTHING. I know why, you don't.
As I said, Colorado leads the nation in education (and everything good), maybe we need to dumb it down like red states. That's a premise, too.
This post was edited on 12/22/16 at 11:06 am
Posted on 12/22/16 at 11:14 am to TxWadingFool
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Maybe there's something to that gateway stuff.
"Colorado Drug Overdoses Up In Almost Every County And Ahead Of National Average"
"Deaths from drug overdoses in Colorado are reaching a crisis level. Not only does the state’s death rate from overdose top the national average, but those numbers have increased across the state."
"In fact twelve of the counties, most of them rural but also including Denver, have among the highest rate of drug deaths in the country."
They're up everywhere because of opiate abuse in the United States. Over-availability of pain killers is the cause, not pot.
Posted on 12/22/16 at 11:19 am to Watchmaker
I never said the article linked the two but are you telling me you've never heard that argument? Can you tell me why Colorado leads the nation in OD deaths and why 12 of the county's in the state are pretty much the worst in the US for OD's, and why their has been drastic increase in OD's in the last few years?
Posted on 12/22/16 at 11:20 am to TheCaterpillar
As I said earlier, using mj is safer that eating at Chipotle Grill or using Tide detergent packs around children. Yet not a peep about making those illegal. Why is that? Years and years of brainwashing by those who are threatened financially by hemp. Gross mind control.
Posted on 12/22/16 at 11:22 am to TheCaterpillar
So it's just a coincidence Colorado is the worst? Okay got it.
Posted on 12/22/16 at 11:24 am to TxWadingFool
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So it's just a coincidence Colorado is the worst? Okay got it.
Stay in Texas, you deserve it.
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