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re: Man beaten to death in front of crowd

Posted on 7/8/14 at 10:53 pm to
Posted by OFWHAP
Member since Sep 2007
5416 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 10:53 pm to
If I were to venture a guess, I'd say that most people without some sort of combat training (people who aren't police/military) would shy away from the situation. That includes a lot of the hardasses on this board.
Posted by Saints72
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2012
473 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 10:54 pm to
His grandmother will say he didn't take his meds......that's the excuse criminals use now.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
74903 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 10:55 pm to
Like to think that Scruffy would at least throw something at the guy.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
60784 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 10:56 pm to
quote:

. Would you try and recruit a few and then back off if everyone else said no?


Honestly, the older I get, and the more out of control trashy I see this country getting the less I care. My tolerance is shite for degenerate bully frickers like that. Lord help me if I am ever terminal one day and see something like that. He's over.
Posted by Xenophon
Aspen
Member since Feb 2006
42115 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 11:28 pm to
he'll go to the front of the line
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34377 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 11:41 pm to
Another good reason to carry.
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
68040 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 12:02 am to
This article is another stark reminder that there are insane-arse people walking among us.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
28915 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 12:08 am to
I've done it twice. I'd probably do it again. Both times I intervened once one party could no longer defend themselves and it appeared the other had no intent on stopping. A straight right upside that mf'ers head woulda stopped him. Nothing says you can't blindside that sonofabitch!
Posted by Old Money
LSU
Member since Sep 2012
39559 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 12:15 am to
That bond is laughable.
Posted by Corkfather
Houston
Member since Sep 2007
19750 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 12:24 am to
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Everyone who was physically capable to stop it, but watched and didnt help. Should be charged with manslaughter, because he did not have a weapon.



No, there's no law that says you're obligated to risk your own life breaking up a fight. There's no way I'd get involved in something like that if I had a family and kids, etc.

Being that I'm single with no children and have been a victim of violent crime myself, I probably would've done something. However, the bystanders shouldn't be judged because they didn't intervene; there's no way they could have known what the fight was about or if they guy may have had a weapon, etc.

ETA: OP, the link is broken.
This post was edited on 7/9/14 at 12:30 am
Posted by Corkfather
Houston
Member since Sep 2007
19750 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 12:27 am to
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Don't get me wrong. If you are carrying a concealed weapon, or if you have a physical advantage over the guy, then you should definitely intervene.



If someone with a CCP would have intervened and shot the guy, they most likely would have been charged with a crime. The perpetrator posed no direct threat to them and was unarmed.
This post was edited on 7/9/14 at 12:28 am
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
61450 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 12:39 am to
I've broken up several fights. Once the guy obviously isn't fighting back, a shove and, "Aight he's had enough" ends it. The victor might bow up/talk shite, but another, "You won, it's over" and they'll walk away.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
121194 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 12:41 am to
quote:

I've broken up several fights.


Problem is, this was not a dispute. It was an unprovoked attack where the assailant (allegedly) indicated that he wanted to kill someone today.

Not entirely like the scenario that you described.
Posted by Corkfather
Houston
Member since Sep 2007
19750 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 12:41 am to
The guy was obviously a lunatic. It's not your average drunken bar fight where you can just say, "hey, he's had enough" and leave it at that. The guy said he "felt like killing someone", that changes the game a little bit. Not to mention this happened at a train station, out of the blue.

Definitely not something you'd want to get involved in unless you knew 100% you'd be successful, it's wayyy too big of a risk.
This post was edited on 7/9/14 at 12:44 am
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
84290 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 12:42 am to
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Nobody jumped in to help this guy??? Everyone just watched


It's Texas. What do you expect? They're not as courageous as the men and women in Mississippi.
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
61450 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 12:44 am to
Then I'd sneak his arse from the side and end it there.
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
21831 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 12:44 am to
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I feel like killing someone


This wasn't a fight, this was PREMEDITATED MURDER.
Posted by Corkfather
Houston
Member since Sep 2007
19750 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 12:45 am to
He's a pretty big guy, you'd better pray you knock his arse out. Either way, you'd definitely want to haul arse right after.
Posted by Corkfather
Houston
Member since Sep 2007
19750 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 12:48 am to
quote:

This wasn't a fight, this was PREMEDITATED MURDER.


I wouldn't say it's premeditated, per se. Premeditation means planning the timing and method out, and making an attempt to avoid being seen, captured, etc. You can't really call committing a seemingly random murder, in front of a crowd, premeditated.

Seems to me like this guy is just a complete sociopath who lost his shite and went after the first guy that looked at him funny.
This post was edited on 7/9/14 at 12:49 am
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
61450 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 12:52 am to
Honestly I wouldn't just sit there and watch someone be beaten to death. Maybe I'm just too stupid to calculate the risks.
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