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re: Man Arrested for Rape of an 18 Year Old Woman; Thoughts, BR?
Posted on 1/18/16 at 11:08 am to lsupride87
Posted on 1/18/16 at 11:08 am to lsupride87
quote:
Holy shite that is the worst analogy of all time
well obtaining logical consistency in the law is important in this area. the law doesn't excuse bad choices due to intoxication basically in any area except this small, culturally-biased grey area. and the proliferation of these stories is making this need even more necessary
one of the worst parts about these scenarios is that pretty much all states have made expert testimony on false memories inadmissible. one day i may actually do a scholarly-legal article on this issue in this context. the law bends over backwards for the victims and tramples on the rights and defenses of the criminally accused (again, pretty much the lone area of exception)
the most brain-draining aspect is that we can't even have a real discussion about this due to people who throw out "drive bye dismissals" like you just did on this page
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Posted on 1/18/16 at 11:14 am to SlowFlowPro
I'm not talking about being excused for bad choices
Example A:
Male is sober and female is drunk and he has sex. I see how this can be rape
Example B:
Male and Female are both wasted. How can you now choose who is guilty of rape?
Example A:
Male is sober and female is drunk and he has sex. I see how this can be rape
Example B:
Male and Female are both wasted. How can you now choose who is guilty of rape?
Posted on 1/18/16 at 11:28 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:He wasn't speaking on the specific story in the OP.
law doesn't excuse bad choices due to intoxication basically in any area except this small, culturally-biased grey area. and the proliferation of these stories is making this need even more necessary
In his hypothetical, who made the bad choice?
But yea, that analogy was terrible to his hypothetical, it made no sense. The better analogy on his shooting angle would be 2 people wake up in teh morning next to each other and both have a bullet hole in their body and a gun in their hand, but both don't really know WTF happened the night before. Stupid I know, but that's the best it'll get doing a shooting analogy.
Posted on 1/18/16 at 11:29 am to lsupride87
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Male and Female are both wasted. How can you now choose who is guilty of rape?
In woman awakens to man sexing her and tells him to stop and he doesn't
Posted on 1/18/16 at 11:30 am to LSUTANGERINE
quote:That didn't happen in Pride's hypothetical.
In woman awakens to man sexing her and tells him to stop and he doesn't
Posted on 1/18/16 at 11:31 am to shel311
I quoted his hypothetical, unless there is another.
There are many ways to determine if rape is involved in Example B. If there is another hypothetical, apologies.
quote:
Example B:
Male and Female are both wasted. How can you now choose who is guilty of rape?
There are many ways to determine if rape is involved in Example B. If there is another hypothetical, apologies.
This post was edited on 1/18/16 at 11:33 am
Posted on 1/18/16 at 11:37 am to lsupride87
quote:
Male and Female are both wasted. How can you now choose who is guilty of rape?
Specify your criteria:
1.standard vag intercourse: Him.
2. she straps it on and piiHb: Her.
I thought in order for a man to be raped, it would have to involve penetration of HIS body (either oral or anal) How can an erection get "raped"?
Butt, I'm no atty.
Eta: assuming that one or the other claims they were physically forced to participate.
This post was edited on 1/18/16 at 11:43 am
Posted on 1/18/16 at 11:43 am to LSUTANGERINE
How does she know he didn't stop? She said she passed back out
Posted on 1/18/16 at 11:52 am to GeeOH
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How does she know he didn't stop? She said she passed back out
It did not say when she passed back out. Could have been immediately or 5 or 10 minutes. The police have more info maybe. But I agree, the burden of proof is on the defendant in cases like this and it should not be. Burden should be on the prosecution, as in all other cases. However, as we know they get the benefit of the doubt.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 12:25 pm to LSUTANGERINE
Is the accused in the OP the same guy that was arrested for an accident in early November that killed 2 people?
Foster/Claycut area?
Foster/Claycut area?
Posted on 11/20/24 at 12:27 pm to thermal9221
8 year old bump - nice!
Posted on 11/20/24 at 12:32 pm to LazloHollyfeld
Yeah the details of the accident are pretty awful. Googled the perps name and led me here eventually.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 12:34 pm to thermal9221
There's no names though. How did you figure it out?
Posted on 11/20/24 at 12:35 pm to thermal9221
quote:
early November that killed 2 people?
Foster/Claycut area?
Do tell about this....
Posted on 11/20/24 at 12:38 pm to thermal9221
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Man Arrested for Rape of an 18 Year Old Woman; Thoughts, BR?
quote:
Is the accused in the OP the same guy that was arrested for an accident in early November that killed 2 people? Foster/Claycut area?
Just needs to kill someone in a tigerland fight and he’s earns free sonic for life.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 12:39 pm to LaBR4
Posted on 11/20/24 at 12:41 pm to thermal9221
Thread is now anchored
Posted on 11/20/24 at 12:42 pm to thermal9221
Please start a new thread and reference this if you want.
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